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No. That’s never what unlimited means. Unlimited means you don’t have to worry about hitting some arbitrary ceiling if you’re a regular or heavy user. It doesn’

by gizmo 3y ago

No. That’s never what unlimited means. Unlimited means you don’t have to worry about hitting some arbitrary ceiling if you’re a regular or heavy user. It doesn’t entitle the top 0.0001% of users to use more resources than the bottom 50% put together.

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rolph 3y ago
i see. unlimited like this, https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/01/wireless-customers-who-were-subject-data-throttling-att-can-apply-payment-ftc https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/01/... https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/att-will-pay-60m-settle-unlimited-data-plans-lawsuit/ https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news... plus: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2015/01/tracfones-limits-unlimited-data-lead-40-million-consumer-refunds https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2015/01/tracfones... https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/google_free_storage_plan_ends_opinion_column/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/google_free_storage_p...
soraminazuki 3y ago
Point us to any reputable English dictionary which contains your definition of the word "unlimited." Yours sounds like the Newspeak definition, not the English one. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, unlimited is limited.
dbetteridge 3y ago
Nope. Unlimited - not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent. Companies don't get to redefine words to their benefit.
shreyansh_k 3y ago
> don’t have to worry about hitting some arbitrary ceiling I find your comment interesting... And self conflicting. Let's us ask this question: is setting the abuse "tripping point" at a usage level of 1%, or 0.1% or 0.01% (heck, choose your favourite number)... arbitrary? And a follow up question: Even if everybody was a genuine good actor (in an imaginary world where sins such as hate, fraud, stealing didn't exist) and was using the storage only for legitimate uses (for any definition of legitimate), would we still end with inequality between the storage usage... And thus, with the 1%, or 0.1% or 0.01% or "any arbitrary value" usage users? And finally: have you considered that, perhaps, we are wrong?
guiambros 3y ago
> "you don’t have to worry about hitting some arbitrary ceiling" Except now you'll be worrying about some unknown arbitrary limit, and hoping you never discover how much it is.
- mdrzn 3y ago
  Article claims "now users are capped, starting at 15TB."
treadmill 3y ago
Why are there always these people, defending those who are taking advantage of them?
Tanjreeve 3y ago
How is someone meant to know where they rank on usage or if they're even being abusive with a service billed as "unlimited" that they pay for?

by gizmo 3y ago

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rolph 3y ago

i see. unlimited like this, https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/01/wireless-customers-who-were-subject-data-throttling-att-can-apply-payment-ftc https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/01/... https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/att-will-pay-60m-settle-unlimited-data-plans-lawsuit/ https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news... plus: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2015/01/tracfones-limits-unlimited-data-lead-40-million-consumer-refunds https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2015/01/tracfones... https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/google_free_storage_plan_ends_opinion_column/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/google_free_storage_p...

soraminazuki 3y ago

Point us to any reputable English dictionary which contains your definition of the word "unlimited." Yours sounds like the Newspeak definition, not the English one. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, unlimited is limited.

dbetteridge 3y ago

Nope. Unlimited - not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent. Companies don't get to redefine words to their benefit.

shreyansh_k 3y ago

> don’t have to worry about hitting some arbitrary ceiling I find your comment interesting... And self conflicting. Let's us ask this question: is setting the abuse "tripping point" at a usage level of 1%, or 0.1% or 0.01% (heck, choose your favourite number)... arbitrary? And a follow up question: Even if everybody was a genuine good actor (in an imaginary world where sins such as hate, fraud, stealing didn't exist) and was using the storage only for legitimate uses (for any definition of legitimate), would we still end with inequality between the storage usage... And thus, with the 1%, or 0.1% or 0.01% or "any arbitrary value" usage users? And finally: have you considered that, perhaps, we are wrong?

guiambros 3y ago

> "you don’t have to worry about hitting some arbitrary ceiling" Except now you'll be worrying about some unknown arbitrary limit, and hoping you never discover how much it is.

mdrzn 3y ago
Article claims "now users are capped, starting at 15TB."

treadmill 3y ago

Why are there always these people, defending those who are taking advantage of them?

Tanjreeve 3y ago

How is someone meant to know where they rank on usage or if they're even being abusive with a service billed as "unlimited" that they pay for?