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Brazil and India are fake democracies ?

cloudcloud3243 3y ago
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ejanus 3y ago
Don't worry so much with that, very soon we will see a sea change in the global economy. We have seen the limit of Western sanctions(Russia). Change is coming, and it is coming very fast.
greatgib 3y ago
I don't think that you saw the trends of dictatorship and censor in these countries: https://thewire.in/rights/india-autocratiser-v-dem-report-2023 https://thewire.in/rights/india-autocratiser-v-dem-report-20... India is now ranked 108th in the democracy index.
- nirav72 3y ago
  yes I know the trends. But the current leadership in both Brazil and India were democratically elected. You might not agree with the outcomes, but that was what their electorate wanted. In fact, Modi's party got more votes in his second term than his first. Also in India's case -the ruling party while having authoritarian leanings, still doesn't control all the states. In fact, it recently lost a state and could lose more. I don't personally like where India is headed. But they still continue to have multi-party elections and have a very vocal opposition. Not to mention a clear separation between their military and their political branches. Neither Brazil or India are anywhere near having a single party control of the entire country. (unlike China and Russia). In Brazil's case , they actually voted out a authoritarian leaning president in the last election. Flaw democracies they might be. Nonetheless, they're still democracies (For now at least). That index isn't a static ranking. Even countries like the U.S have moved couple of rankings up and down in recent years based on policies set by whatever party is in power.
  - greatgib 3y ago
    You can be "democratically elected" without a real democracy. That is the concept of fake democracies. Look, in Russia Poutine was elected with almost 100% of votes for him... In India you have corruption, censorship, control of the media by the government, deceptive legal or illegal measure taken against the political opponents...

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Don't worry so much with that, very soon we will see a sea change in the global economy. We have seen the limit of Western sanctions(Russia). Change is coming, and it is coming very fast.

greatgib 3y ago

I don't think that you saw the trends of dictatorship and censor in these countries: https://thewire.in/rights/india-autocratiser-v-dem-report-2023 https://thewire.in/rights/india-autocratiser-v-dem-report-20... India is now ranked 108th in the democracy index.

nirav72 3y ago
yes I know the trends. But the current leadership in both Brazil and India were democratically elected. You might not agree with the outcomes, but that was what their electorate wanted. In fact, Modi's party got more votes in his second term than his first. Also in India's case -the ruling party while having authoritarian leanings, still doesn't control all the states. In fact, it recently lost a state and could lose more. I don't personally like where India is headed. But they still continue to have multi-party elections and have a very vocal opposition. Not to mention a clear separation between their military and their political branches. Neither Brazil or India are anywhere near having a single party control of the entire country. (unlike China and Russia). In Brazil's case , they actually voted out a authoritarian leaning president in the last election. Flaw democracies they might be. Nonetheless, they're still democracies (For now at least). That index isn't a static ranking. Even countries like the U.S have moved couple of rankings up and down in recent years based on policies set by whatever party is in power.
- greatgib 3y ago
  You can be "democratically elected" without a real democracy. That is the concept of fake democracies. Look, in Russia Poutine was elected with almost 100% of votes for him... In India you have corruption, censorship, control of the media by the government, deceptive legal or illegal measure taken against the political opponents...