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I see that someone provided the citation you claim to need. Happy now?

ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
yes, the one which indicates your claim that, and I'm quoting you here, "people trust gossip more", is nonsense. Happy now? I am. or did you not read the parts that say 61/71% of Americans trust national/local media, respectively? Seems higher than "gossip". here's that link again for you: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/27/u-s-adults-under-30-now-trust-information-from-social-media-almost-as-much-as-from-national-news-outlets/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/27/u-s-adult...
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  > I'm quoting you here no, you're not. Read it all again.
  - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    as it stands now, the ridiculous claim that "more people trust gossip" than 61% to 71% of people is pretty unconvincing
    - AlbertCory 3y ago
      Since you are just changing the subject and misquoting me, we are done here. Have the last word if that's important to you. I never said anything about "gossip" -- I said that public trust in media is at an all-time low. And here is your citation: https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-dips-second-lowest-record.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-di... I was almost right: it was slightly lower in 2016. But the long-term trend is unquestionably down.
      - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
        the thread you're posting in started with a specific claim at the below link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37244366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37244366 > "The messaging in journalism has been so thoroughly hijacked that people trust gossip more" that's the claim I was unconvinced by, that's the claim we're discussing, and if you have a different claim, a different thread would be the appropriate place for it I take your lack of defending the above claim to mean you agree with me that the claim lacks sufficient evidence to be persuasive your own claim about it being at an all time low isn't particularly relevant to that claim, and seems like moving the goalposts from it (only because you're posting in a thread about that claim, of course - if you started your own thread about your own topic, one wouldn't get that impression). But if it isn't, we can discuss it once we've finished the previous discussion, about the aforementioned claim as far as I can tell, though, that claim this thread is about, is still out there, and nobody has conceded it to be false, so we'll just have to stay on that topic in this thread until we reach consensus on it, and move onto yours after that.

yes, the one which indicates your claim that, and I'm quoting you here, "people trust gossip more", is nonsense. Happy now? I am. or did you not read the parts that say 61/71% of Americans trust national/local media, respectively? Seems higher than "gossip". here's that link again for you: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/27/u-s-adults-under-30-now-trust-information-from-social-media-almost-as-much-as-from-national-news-outlets/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/27/u-s-adult...

AlbertCory 3y ago
> I'm quoting you here no, you're not. Read it all again.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  as it stands now, the ridiculous claim that "more people trust gossip" than 61% to 71% of people is pretty unconvincing
  - AlbertCory 3y ago
    Since you are just changing the subject and misquoting me, we are done here. Have the last word if that's important to you. I never said anything about "gossip" -- I said that public trust in media is at an all-time low. And here is your citation: https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-dips-second-lowest-record.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-di... I was almost right: it was slightly lower in 2016. But the long-term trend is unquestionably down.
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      the thread you're posting in started with a specific claim at the below link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37244366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37244366 > "The messaging in journalism has been so thoroughly hijacked that people trust gossip more" that's the claim I was unconvinced by, that's the claim we're discussing, and if you have a different claim, a different thread would be the appropriate place for it I take your lack of defending the above claim to mean you agree with me that the claim lacks sufficient evidence to be persuasive your own claim about it being at an all time low isn't particularly relevant to that claim, and seems like moving the goalposts from it (only because you're posting in a thread about that claim, of course - if you started your own thread about your own topic, one wouldn't get that impression). But if it isn't, we can discuss it once we've finished the previous discussion, about the aforementioned claim as far as I can tell, though, that claim this thread is about, is still out there, and nobody has conceded it to be false, so we'll just have to stay on that topic in this thread until we reach consensus on it, and move onto yours after that.