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I think the headline is a bit sensational, reading the article and seeing the statement in context made it less of a hot take. More than the trust factor Yuan

I think the headline is a bit sensational, reading the article and seeing the statement in context made it less of a hot take. More than the trust factor Yuan highlighted: > to drive innovation that he claimed results from having more heated conversations and debates that just don't happen as often over Zoom. Yuan said that instead, to the seeming detriment of the company's ability to generate new ideas, "everyone tends to be very friendly when you join a Zoom call." He's not wrong IMO.

tennisflyi 3y ago
Sure. You could perhaps have your "ill tempered" behavior recorded and if you have a dedicated space, or not, not wanting to associate it with "more heated conversation." Looks like a bit more separation is ideal.
- jayd16 3y ago
  I guess it's time to pitch my new high temper b2b messenger, Angr.
  - metamet 3y ago
    Slap some face and voice filters onto the call that trigger anytime someone is yelling. Make them smile and change their vocal intonations to be pleasant, then the recorded minutes wont be a big deal if they're leaked.
nus07 3y ago
Heated conversations and debates to drive innovation was fine in the Oppenheimer and AT&T Bell days . Today it takes one wrong word to get called up by HR or a recording that can sabotage your entire career. I don’t think the tech industry or the country’s work culture suffers heretics anymore. I am fine with the lack of passion and lack of innovation on Zoom if it helps my anxiety and ADHD better and allows me to work without offending anyone . I just want to keep a steady income .
- safeimp 3y ago
  I'd say this is nuanced? Heated can certainly mean elevated to a point of being argumentative but the way I interpreted it in this case is more about being impassioned? I'll regularly get into these types of scenarios with colleagues and find them to be considerably easier to have in person versus over Zoom or Slack. It's very difficult to fully read someones body language or intent when remote but for me it's easier to go have this type of debate in person and then walk away on good terms or maybe just heading out for a walk together to cool off and rebalance.
- tonfreed 3y ago
  I've had many a heated argument with the older bloke on my team. I'm very much a "I need to come back to this in 12 months, do it properly" kind of person, while he just gets stuff working. I've rejected PRs and spent many an hour bashing my head against the wall trying to explain these things to him, but at the end of the day we still have a beer after work and generally enjoy each others' company. Heated doesn't necessarily mean unfriendly
CTDOCodebases 3y ago
I think its due to the format. In a normal meeting your eye is not forced to look solely at a matrix of faces. Your can focus on someones face if you wish but otherwise you are looking at the person normally from the waist up. Looking at someones face forces you to make eye contact which has an emotional effect on the parties involved. Extended periods of eye contact is used in couples therapy to increase empathy and intimacy.

tennisflyi 3y ago

Sure. You could perhaps have your "ill tempered" behavior recorded and if you have a dedicated space, or not, not wanting to associate it with "more heated conversation." Looks like a bit more separation is ideal.

jayd16 3y ago
I guess it's time to pitch my new high temper b2b messenger, Angr.
- metamet 3y ago
  Slap some face and voice filters onto the call that trigger anytime someone is yelling. Make them smile and change their vocal intonations to be pleasant, then the recorded minutes wont be a big deal if they're leaked.

nus07 3y ago

Heated conversations and debates to drive innovation was fine in the Oppenheimer and AT&T Bell days . Today it takes one wrong word to get called up by HR or a recording that can sabotage your entire career. I don’t think the tech industry or the country’s work culture suffers heretics anymore. I am fine with the lack of passion and lack of innovation on Zoom if it helps my anxiety and ADHD better and allows me to work without offending anyone . I just want to keep a steady income .

safeimp 3y ago
I'd say this is nuanced? Heated can certainly mean elevated to a point of being argumentative but the way I interpreted it in this case is more about being impassioned? I'll regularly get into these types of scenarios with colleagues and find them to be considerably easier to have in person versus over Zoom or Slack. It's very difficult to fully read someones body language or intent when remote but for me it's easier to go have this type of debate in person and then walk away on good terms or maybe just heading out for a walk together to cool off and rebalance.
tonfreed 3y ago
I've had many a heated argument with the older bloke on my team. I'm very much a "I need to come back to this in 12 months, do it properly" kind of person, while he just gets stuff working. I've rejected PRs and spent many an hour bashing my head against the wall trying to explain these things to him, but at the end of the day we still have a beer after work and generally enjoy each others' company. Heated doesn't necessarily mean unfriendly

CTDOCodebases 3y ago

I think its due to the format. In a normal meeting your eye is not forced to look solely at a matrix of faces. Your can focus on someones face if you wish but otherwise you are looking at the person normally from the waist up. Looking at someones face forces you to make eye contact which has an emotional effect on the parties involved. Extended periods of eye contact is used in couples therapy to increase empathy and intimacy.