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The geopolitics of this announcement are extremely significant. Egypt-Ethiopia and KSA-Iran-UAE are consequential rivalries that dictate MENA geopolitics; Isra

The geopolitics of this announcement are extremely significant. Egypt-Ethiopia and KSA-Iran-UAE are consequential rivalries that dictate MENA geopolitics; Israel/Turkey are left in the cold. Brazil+Argentina means South America is decisively a BRICS+ continent. What Monroe Doctrine? 3/4 of global energy production is now BRICS+. But yeah, we in the West can cope about how BRICS isn't real, and made of economic "falling stars" from our glass houses.

legitster 3y ago
Uh.... Israel and Turkey haven't applied and want nothing to do with BRICs because they are not desperate enough to consider it. At it's best it's still a toothless fantasy, at its worst it's G7 but for supervillains. And for all the criticisms you might have for G7 and "the west", BRICs is shaping up to be much, much more exploitative. But my opinions don't really matter. If they can actually figure out a new international commerce and trading system that doesn't rely on dollars and the US Navy, despite all hating each other and each others' currencies, hats off to them. In the meantime I won't wait up.
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alephnerd 3y ago
Not really. All these new members are countries that have extremely strong trade and defense relationship with Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa already Brazil - Argentina Russia - Iran, UAE India - Egypt, UAE, KSA, Ethiopia, Iran China - Iran, KSA, UAE, Ethiopia, Egypt South Africa - Ethiopia The issue is, BRICS+ will never be as cohesive as the G7 because the I and C have an active rivalry that is impacting bilateral relationships in the B, R, and S. Within the G7, all the members are already aligned with each other. > Israel/Turkey are left in the cold Israel has India, France, and the US due to defense and economic dependencies. Turkey has the full support of Eastern and Southern European NATO members like Romania, Poland, Spain, etc because they are a regional power competing against Russia within the Balkans, Mediterranean, Middle East, Africa, and Eastern Europe

legitster 3y ago

Uh.... Israel and Turkey haven't applied and want nothing to do with BRICs because they are not desperate enough to consider it. At it's best it's still a toothless fantasy, at its worst it's G7 but for supervillains. And for all the criticisms you might have for G7 and "the west", BRICs is shaping up to be much, much more exploitative. But my opinions don't really matter. If they can actually figure out a new international commerce and trading system that doesn't rely on dollars and the US Navy, despite all hating each other and each others' currencies, hats off to them. In the meantime I won't wait up.

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alephnerd 3y ago

Not really. All these new members are countries that have extremely strong trade and defense relationship with Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa already Brazil - Argentina Russia - Iran, UAE India - Egypt, UAE, KSA, Ethiopia, Iran China - Iran, KSA, UAE, Ethiopia, Egypt South Africa - Ethiopia The issue is, BRICS+ will never be as cohesive as the G7 because the I and C have an active rivalry that is impacting bilateral relationships in the B, R, and S. Within the G7, all the members are already aligned with each other. > Israel/Turkey are left in the cold Israel has India, France, and the US due to defense and economic dependencies. Turkey has the full support of Eastern and Southern European NATO members like Romania, Poland, Spain, etc because they are a regional power competing against Russia within the Balkans, Mediterranean, Middle East, Africa, and Eastern Europe