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I didn’t realize it was other wise. Under 25 your brain hasn’t fully developed and you can’t be trusted to rent a car, but you can take a strangers life in your

I didn’t realize it was other wise. Under 25 your brain hasn’t fully developed and you can’t be trusted to rent a car, but you can take a strangers life in your hands.

danielfoster 3y ago
Just because your brain is not fully developed does not mean you are incapable of making good decisions. Keep in mind the minimum age for a commercial pilot’s license is 18 years old. A number of under-25s have been hired by airlines in the past or fly planes in the military. I also rented cars multiple times as a 21-year-old in the US and without paying a risk surcharge as well.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  Statistically, the under-25 set tends to be pretty poor at risk assessment and judgement. Of course, that doesn't mean all people under 25. There's a huge amount of variability and a whole lot of extremely responsible and capable young adults. The process you need to go through to get a pilot's license -- especially a commercial one -- is pretty rigorous and I would have confidence that anyone, of any age, who does it is qualified. The process you need to go through to get a driver's license is very far from rigorous, and I don't assume that just because someone has one, at any age, that means they're good at it. So the statistics are more relevant. There's a very good reason why car insurance premiums are higher for people under 25.
  - danielfoster 3y ago
    I totally agree with you. My point is I see people (usually boomers) sometimes make the logical fallacy of assuming not fully developed brain = undeveloped brain. Probably Uber should have some sort of extended test or trial period, limited working hours, special speed monitoring, or other safety controls in place for younger drivers. Of course this would be too cost-prohibitive. It’s also unfortunate to see a large group of people dismissed based on a single statistic, when in reality brain development is a much more complex process.
    - htrp 3y ago
      > Probably Uber should have some sort of extended test or trial period, limited working hours, special speed monitoring, or other safety controls in place for younger drivers. Of course this would be too cost-prohibitive. They literally have an always on track of your location with them while you are driving for them, it wouldn't be too much to hook that into a OBDII interface to monitor safe driving.
halfdan 3y ago
Ah yes, hence why Americans get their drivers permit at 16 and can shoot weapons and deploy to war shortly after.
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 3y ago
  You can drive a tank at 17 in the Army, if I'm not mistaken.
runnerup 3y ago
19 year olds helm aircraft carriers.

I didn’t realize it was other wise. Under 25 your brain hasn’t fully developed and you can’t be trusted to rent a car, but you can take a strangers life in your hands.

danielfoster 3y ago

Just because your brain is not fully developed does not mean you are incapable of making good decisions. Keep in mind the minimum age for a commercial pilot’s license is 18 years old. A number of under-25s have been hired by airlines in the past or fly planes in the military. I also rented cars multiple times as a 21-year-old in the US and without paying a risk surcharge as well.

JohnFen 3y ago
Statistically, the under-25 set tends to be pretty poor at risk assessment and judgement. Of course, that doesn't mean all people under 25. There's a huge amount of variability and a whole lot of extremely responsible and capable young adults. The process you need to go through to get a pilot's license -- especially a commercial one -- is pretty rigorous and I would have confidence that anyone, of any age, who does it is qualified. The process you need to go through to get a driver's license is very far from rigorous, and I don't assume that just because someone has one, at any age, that means they're good at it. So the statistics are more relevant. There's a very good reason why car insurance premiums are higher for people under 25.
- danielfoster 3y ago
  I totally agree with you. My point is I see people (usually boomers) sometimes make the logical fallacy of assuming not fully developed brain = undeveloped brain. Probably Uber should have some sort of extended test or trial period, limited working hours, special speed monitoring, or other safety controls in place for younger drivers. Of course this would be too cost-prohibitive. It’s also unfortunate to see a large group of people dismissed based on a single statistic, when in reality brain development is a much more complex process.
  - htrp 3y ago
    > Probably Uber should have some sort of extended test or trial period, limited working hours, special speed monitoring, or other safety controls in place for younger drivers. Of course this would be too cost-prohibitive. They literally have an always on track of your location with them while you are driving for them, it wouldn't be too much to hook that into a OBDII interface to monitor safe driving.

halfdan 3y ago

Ah yes, hence why Americans get their drivers permit at 16 and can shoot weapons and deploy to war shortly after.

8f2ab37a-ed6c 3y ago
You can drive a tank at 17 in the Army, if I'm not mistaken.

runnerup 3y ago

19 year olds helm aircraft carriers.