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Exactly. The oldest evidence of archaic human tool use in Java, Indonesia is over 1.5 million years old with Homo erectus fossils going back 700 kYa [1], long b
by civilitty 3y ago
Exactly. The oldest evidence of archaic human tool use in Java, Indonesia is over 1.5 million years old with Homo erectus fossils going back 700 kYa [1], long before the earliest evidence of Homo sapiens. In Europe the oldest fossil remains date to 800 kYa at Atapuerca [2] (with cannibalism!).
It's just cultural egotism. It's especially meaningless if it goes as far back as 8 million years because even half a million is enough for hominids to spread across several continents and come back as different species.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Indonesia#Homo_erectus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Indonesia#Homo_ere...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeological_site_of_Atapuerca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeological_site_of_Atapuer...
- opportune 3y agoYeah, the fact it’s an 8 million year old fossil really makes the tie to homo sapiens’ origins ludicrous. The earliest evidence for Australopithecus (where humans started to diverge from other apes like Chimps) was 4 million years old. And there are already 12.5 million year old Ponginae (Orangutan relatives) fossils from India. Since all Ponginae are Asian but none are in human ancestry, that’d imply even earlier radiation of early African apes - which have just as much a claim to possibly being early human ancestors if they were pre-Ponginae - into Asia than this would.
- therein 3y ago> The oldest evidence of archaic human tool in use is Java I misread that. :)