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> with modern, fast, Internet speeds, it's like you're in the same room as the other person. I've been working remotely for nearly as long, and like anything e
by gottorf 3y ago
> with modern, fast, Internet speeds, it's like you're in the same room as the other person.
I've been working remotely for nearly as long, and like anything else, it has its advantages and disadvantages. But this assertion is patently false, at least for me. I have a symmetric gigabit fiber connection at home, with 10GbE hardwired everything in my LAN. No tool I use, be it Zoom, Meet, Teams, whatever, comes even close to being in the same room as another person. The combination of latency (however slight) and imperfect duplex sound transmission between different equipment means that people are constantly inadvertently cutting each other off.
- midasuni 3y agoI started working remotely from my team in 2011. By 2014 the people remaining in Hq had closed most meeting rooms and people were expected to dial in from their hot desks - nowhere near each other. It was all the downsides of being in the office with the downsides of video conferencing.
- gottorf 3y agoThat sounds like a hilariously bad decision.
- ilc 3y agoNow, just imagine it being done so they can: - Have more space for their open office plan. - Allow managers to have their own offices. Morale? Who needs that.
- midasuni 3y agoPartly because most meetings waste time (moving around a large building, waiting for peoppe to get there from the previous meeting, etc), but generally to reduce the floor space used and reduce the property portfolio The opportunity of covid to get rid of more desks was great, and we’ve closed two more buildings in central london thanks to it.
- bombcar 3y agoZoom has a “studio/live audio” setting which can actually work decently well at removing latency. Give it a try! (Everyone will have to turn it on).
- pathartl 3y agoWe've been using Teams for 3 years and I haven't seen really any problems with latency. I've only seen problems with the standard conference call issue if you have 6+ people on the call all trying to talk.
- redundantly 3y ago> The combination of latency (however slight) and imperfect duplex sound transmission between different equipment means that people are constantly inadvertently cutting each other off. This is trivial compared to people purposefully cutting each other off or willfully misunderstanding the project or issue being worked on. Minor inconveniences introduced by working virtually are just that: minor. It's not a good enough reason to force workers back into the office just so the c-levels can feel they're doing better at their jobs.
- asynchronous 3y agoAs much as I loathe Discord for it replacing forums, I will say that Discord’s audio mixing for multiple speaking members is literally perfect. Or at least closer to perfect than any other competitor. You can actually talk over each other to some extent.
- Gigachad 3y agoPart of it I think is discord users wear headphones more. If you are using a mic and your laptop loud speaker, the app will kill your mic every time someone else is talking, otherwise you get a feedback loop.
- asynchronous 3y agoIf that is the case that’s a smart move on their part, not a month goes by without someone doing that on teams.
- thefz 3y ago> people are constantly inadvertently cutting each other off It's more an effect of not seeing faces / missing some very subtle social cues that help in having "rounds" in a conversation. But you get used to it and learn to counter it, and besides I know a handful of people who cut others off in real life as well.