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By the way, SpaceX's updated job descriptions are consistent with this interpretation. They now say: "To conform to U.S. Government export regulations, applica
by returningfory2 3y ago
By the way, SpaceX's updated job descriptions are consistent with this interpretation. They now say:
"To conform to U.S. Government export regulations, applicant must be a (i) U.S. citizen or national, (ii) U.S. lawful, permanent resident (aka green card holder), (iii) Refugee under 8 U.S.C. § 1157, or (iv) Asylee under 8 U.S.C. § 1158, or be eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn more about the ITAR"
They have explicitly added refugee and asylee.
- zerocrates 3y agoSure, they were told back in 2020 they were being investigated for this, updating their boilerplate for compliance with the law is just about the minimal level of compliance.
- sokoloff 3y agoCompliance with the law seems like a fairly binary thing. They (as argued) weren't and now they are. Do you have a specific way in mind that they should become more compliant?
- burkaman 3y agoUpdating the job postings addresses "SpaceX routinely discouraged asylees and refugees from applying", but does not mean they have resolved the other half: "refused to hire or consider them".
- deelowe 3y agoIt does not mean they failed to address it either... This is pure speculation and irrelevant.
- zerocrates 3y agoI'm just saying that if you're going to say you comply you'll at least update those kinds of statements. You can't claim at all to comply if you're still saying "citizens and green card holders only." That could easily be a veneer of compliance, where you're still rejecting all those similarly situated candidates, or rejecting them at comparatively higher rates, but just doing so without explicitly stating their status as the reason. That would be much harder to prove but not actually complying with the law.
- DrBenCarson 3y agoGold star for not obviously violating federal law after being told they were under investigation
- CWuestefeld 3y agoYou say that as if it's fair for the government to expect that everyone is fully comfortable with the hundreds of thousands of pages of regulations.
- meragrin_ 3y ago> You say that as if it's fair for the government to expect that everyone is fully comfortable with the hundreds of thousands of pages of regulations. Is it "only" hundreds of thousands? I would have figured it is at least tens or hundreds of millions. Also don't forget that they have to keep up on all of the changes.
- DrBenCarson 3y agoIs that an unreasonable expectation for a multi-billion dollar firm with a proportional legal department that regularly ignites explosives on public property?
- uxp8u61q 3y agoNot everyone with everything. But the HR department of a billion dollar company should be fully comfortable with federal regulations regarding HR. I don't see how that's remotely controversial.
- hollerith 3y agoIt is remotely controversial.
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- returningfory2 3y agoAn asylee is someone whose application for asylum has been approved. The hack in which you cross the border illegally and then apply for asylum does get you a work permit, but won't get you one of these jobs.