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I know many engineers at Meta and Google. They all say only chronic underperformers were laid off, and some chronic underperformers weren’t. It’s a different st
by gotaran 3y ago
I know many engineers at Meta and Google. They all say only chronic underperformers were laid off, and some chronic underperformers weren’t. It’s a different story for recruiters and middle managers, which were super bloated anyway.
So this is a good thing.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoRiddle me this, Batman, but if that's true, why wasn't I laid off?
- saagarjha 3y agoNo you don’t. If you knew any people at those companies they’d tell you the layoffs were haphazard and confused.
- gotaran 3y ago5 of my close friends work at Meta, and 2 at Google. All engineers. I visit the NYC Union Square and Hudson Yards offices regularly for dinner, and even the Seattle Westlake and MPK ones whenever I’m visiting. The mood there is much much better post layoffs. Possibly even better than it was pre COVID.
- saagarjha 3y agoIt’s pretty amazing how lively they are, right? Almost as if everyone was asked to return to the office?
- alphanullmeric 3y agoThat makes no sense. If I had to choose between two people to lay off, why would I get rid of the person that performs better?
- saagarjha 3y agoAsk Meta and Google.
- neilv 3y agoI don't know whether "only chronic underperformers were laid off" is true or not, but... It sounds like a meme that a big company might want to have internally, if they were trying to both reduce regretted/uncontrolled attrition, while also lighting a fire under people who the company thinks are complacent. But the company would not say that publicly (nor want employees to say that too loudly), because that would be a big liability, defaming tens of thousands of people while they are job-hunting. Also, a jerk move. Regardless, I'd normally expect any big company layoffs to likely include people that the company or some layer of management has wanted to get rid of (for various reasons, not all the fault of the employee). But layoffs will also hit people based on what project they're on, what department, what role, and simply because their manager was given a target number to reduce. I also know of multiple high-performers who knew/assumed layoffs were coming, and already wanted to leave, so quietly put in a word with a trusted manager/exec, that they would like a severance package when the time comes. (And then the manager could keep another person or two they would've had to reduce otherwise.)
- avgDev 3y agoCelebrating layoffs is some end stage capitalism.