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>This thing currently called "serverless" is more like "server as a service" You can go ahead and call it "server as a service" (and have everyone look at you

>This thing currently called "serverless" is more like "server as a service" You can go ahead and call it "server as a service" (and have everyone look at you funny) while the rest of the development world cares zero about the pedantry and continues to build serverless applications without worrying about planning around or maintaining a server. "Serverless uses servers!" can be added to the list of predictable comments, along with "The Economics Nobel isn't real!" and "Correlation isn't causation!". We get it, it doesn't need to be repeated every time an adjacent subject is discussed.

tacker2000 3y ago
Sorry but this is just buzzword bingo. Why not call it cloud? Why throw around some ambiguous and meaningless term? It used to be that the so called “Computer Scientists” would be naming these things, but now it seems that its just another marketing department and lots of susceptible developers buy into that.
- ggregoire 3y ago
  cloud vs. serverless: You can install postgres in a AWS EC2, it's in the "cloud" but you still have to do all the sysadmin work yourself. Or you can use a "serverless" postgres and let the provider do the sysadmin work for you. I guess you could call it "postgres as a service".
  - mpol 3y ago
    That is simply a managed server.
    - icedchai 3y ago
      It's more like a managed distributed system. A highly available serverless database, like AWS Aurora, is much more than "a server."
  - tacker2000 3y ago
    How is that server “less”? Just because you didnt install it using apt-get? Its still a server. It still uses a bare metal machine running a VM in some datacenter that is accessible remotely.
    - ggregoire 3y ago
      I was just commenting about the difference between "cloud" and "serverless", because you said "Why not call it cloud?". I prefer "as a service" or "managed" instead of "serverless". Not a big fan of the term for the reasons you mentioned.
      - tacker2000 3y ago
        Yes i also prefer that. Thanks for clarifying.

tacker2000 3y ago

Sorry but this is just buzzword bingo. Why not call it cloud? Why throw around some ambiguous and meaningless term? It used to be that the so called “Computer Scientists” would be naming these things, but now it seems that its just another marketing department and lots of susceptible developers buy into that.

ggregoire 3y ago
cloud vs. serverless: You can install postgres in a AWS EC2, it's in the "cloud" but you still have to do all the sysadmin work yourself. Or you can use a "serverless" postgres and let the provider do the sysadmin work for you. I guess you could call it "postgres as a service".
- mpol 3y ago
  That is simply a managed server.
  - icedchai 3y ago
    It's more like a managed distributed system. A highly available serverless database, like AWS Aurora, is much more than "a server."
- tacker2000 3y ago
  How is that server “less”? Just because you didnt install it using apt-get? Its still a server. It still uses a bare metal machine running a VM in some datacenter that is accessible remotely.
  - ggregoire 3y ago
    I was just commenting about the difference between "cloud" and "serverless", because you said "Why not call it cloud?". I prefer "as a service" or "managed" instead of "serverless". Not a big fan of the term for the reasons you mentioned.
    - tacker2000 3y ago
      Yes i also prefer that. Thanks for clarifying.