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This seems to be getting pendantic about nomenclature. There is no "true serverless", there is only the usage of the word that the majority of people use, whic

This seems to be getting pendantic about nomenclature. There is no "true serverless", there is only the usage of the word that the majority of people use, which is to mean server-as-a-service. Nobody suggested it's a way to avoid lock-in. It's a way to avoiding managing servers. I don't see the problem here.

abruzzi 3y ago
When I saw serverless, my mind when right to ultra lightweight database-as-a-library like SQLlite. Not AWS or azure cloud.
- leesalminen 3y ago
  Same here. In my formative years I was led to believe you had to use a “real” RDBMS for everything- MySQL or Postgres. Anything else was just a toy not suitable for use in the real world. I succumbed to the SQLite hype train in 2020 when every other post on HN was about it. I started building things with it. First, small things. Then bigger things. Now I’m at the point where I default to starting most things with SQLite unless there’s a really good reason. It’s incredible how far SQLite can take you. It feels almost like a cheat code. Wish I had jumped on the train years ago.
  - sophacles 3y ago
    > I succumbed to the SQLite hype train in 2020 when every other post on HN was about it Is it really a hype train when every 6-12 months since I joined this site there has been a ~1month period of sqlite on the front page every day? At some point a repeated and perennial "hype cycle" might just in fact be enthusiasm about a good product.
- unscaled 3y ago
  When "serverless" just got started and mostly focused on running functions with infinite (and automatic) scalability, the term "Functions-as-a-Service" (FaaS) seemed like a good competitor for a while, but that ship has long sailed. It's a confusing term, but it's not the first one. We survived "JavaScript", and complaining it's not related to Java at all stopped being fashionable along with flip phones and it's only ever done as a joke[1]. I foresee the same thing would happen for serverless in 10 years, and we'll get tired of complaining that this term sucks. FWIW, we just have to internalize that serverless means "a service where you don't have to provision and manage your cloud servers and you don't even know how many of them are out there", just we collectively internalized that the HTTP Authorization header is the header responsible for Authentication. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782761

abruzzi 3y ago

When I saw serverless, my mind when right to ultra lightweight database-as-a-library like SQLlite. Not AWS or azure cloud.

leesalminen 3y ago
Same here. In my formative years I was led to believe you had to use a “real” RDBMS for everything- MySQL or Postgres. Anything else was just a toy not suitable for use in the real world. I succumbed to the SQLite hype train in 2020 when every other post on HN was about it. I started building things with it. First, small things. Then bigger things. Now I’m at the point where I default to starting most things with SQLite unless there’s a really good reason. It’s incredible how far SQLite can take you. It feels almost like a cheat code. Wish I had jumped on the train years ago.
- sophacles 3y ago
  > I succumbed to the SQLite hype train in 2020 when every other post on HN was about it Is it really a hype train when every 6-12 months since I joined this site there has been a ~1month period of sqlite on the front page every day? At some point a repeated and perennial "hype cycle" might just in fact be enthusiasm about a good product.
unscaled 3y ago
When "serverless" just got started and mostly focused on running functions with infinite (and automatic) scalability, the term "Functions-as-a-Service" (FaaS) seemed like a good competitor for a while, but that ship has long sailed. It's a confusing term, but it's not the first one. We survived "JavaScript", and complaining it's not related to Java at all stopped being fashionable along with flip phones and it's only ever done as a joke[1]. I foresee the same thing would happen for serverless in 10 years, and we'll get tired of complaining that this term sucks. FWIW, we just have to internalize that serverless means "a service where you don't have to provision and manage your cloud servers and you don't even know how many of them are out there", just we collectively internalized that the HTTP Authorization header is the header responsible for Authentication. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782761