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From my viewpoint (in europe though) I only started hearing/seeing it during coronavirus.

by bondarchuk 3y ago

DennisP 3y ago
In the US we got a head start on it with climate.
- Slava_Propanei 3y ago
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TeMPOraL 3y ago
In Poland, I first started hearing it around vaccines and climate discussions couple years before COVID - but that may have been because I was hanging out in various social media groups discussing those topics (and/or just mocking the "science deniers"). The term however seems to have exploded in use since the pandemic. I think it's because it suddenly became relevant to mass audience and journalists started using it.
- permo-w 3y ago
  was that in Polish? if so, what is the Polish version?
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    There isn't a set one. "Antynaukowy" (lit. "anti-science") is the most common I've seen, perhaps because it's close to a well-established term "antyszczepionkowiec" ("anti-vaxxer") - but most often, it's just any of the expression that contains the core term of "anti science" or "denying science", such as "antynaukowe poglądy" ("anti-scientific beliefs"), "zaprzeczasz nauce" ("you're denying science"), etc.
    - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
      Lol that last word has a z, a prz, a cz, and a sz.
      - pfannkuchen 3y ago
        They should really switch to Cyrillic!
        kgabis 3y ago
        I see this argument raised quite often and it's a bit like saying English should have it's own alphabet because latin alphabet wasn't made for whatever amalgamate of languages modern English is. There are cultural factors at play as well, Poland was historically a Catholic country and that came with latin included. Basically: digraphs are prevalent in many languages and Z is as good a letter as any.
        TeMPOraL 3y ago
        Wrt. English, it still technically has stuff like Æ, so it too may just as well switch to Cyrillic.
        pfannkuchen 3y ago
        I’m confused by both of these replies. Wasn’t Cyrillic created expressly for Slavic languages? And isn’t Polish a Slavic language?
        kgabis 3y ago
        Other than not having to use diacritics, what benefits does it present for modern Polish users to switch to an alphabet designed for Old Church Slavonic?
        permo-w 3y ago
Spooky23 3y ago
In the US,this went mainstream for the pandemic. It was an existing undercurrent in different communities. Reactionary people weaponized vaccines with Gardasil - good Christian boys and girls are chaste until marriage, so vaccination is unnecessary. Sinners get gods punishment. Crazy left-wing people cling to the autism rumors about vaccination. All of this is magnified by politics and propaganda. Certain religious sects punch above their weight because of political factors - you can usually correlate this with measles outbreaks. Foreign influence operations encourage and stoke this stuff to encourage general unrest as well.

From my viewpoint (in europe though) I only started hearing/seeing it during coronavirus.

DennisP 3y ago

In the US we got a head start on it with climate.

Slava_Propanei 3y ago
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TeMPOraL 3y ago

In Poland, I first started hearing it around vaccines and climate discussions couple years before COVID - but that may have been because I was hanging out in various social media groups discussing those topics (and/or just mocking the "science deniers"). The term however seems to have exploded in use since the pandemic. I think it's because it suddenly became relevant to mass audience and journalists started using it.

permo-w 3y ago
was that in Polish? if so, what is the Polish version?
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  There isn't a set one. "Antynaukowy" (lit. "anti-science") is the most common I've seen, perhaps because it's close to a well-established term "antyszczepionkowiec" ("anti-vaxxer") - but most often, it's just any of the expression that contains the core term of "anti science" or "denying science", such as "antynaukowe poglądy" ("anti-scientific beliefs"), "zaprzeczasz nauce" ("you're denying science"), etc.
  - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
    Lol that last word has a z, a prz, a cz, and a sz.
    - pfannkuchen 3y ago
      They should really switch to Cyrillic!
      - kgabis 3y ago
        I see this argument raised quite often and it's a bit like saying English should have it's own alphabet because latin alphabet wasn't made for whatever amalgamate of languages modern English is. There are cultural factors at play as well, Poland was historically a Catholic country and that came with latin included. Basically: digraphs are prevalent in many languages and Z is as good a letter as any.
        TeMPOraL 3y ago
        Wrt. English, it still technically has stuff like Æ, so it too may just as well switch to Cyrillic.
        pfannkuchen 3y ago
        I’m confused by both of these replies. Wasn’t Cyrillic created expressly for Slavic languages? And isn’t Polish a Slavic language?
        kgabis 3y ago
        Other than not having to use diacritics, what benefits does it present for modern Polish users to switch to an alphabet designed for Old Church Slavonic?
        permo-w 3y ago

Spooky23 3y ago

In the US,this went mainstream for the pandemic. It was an existing undercurrent in different communities. Reactionary people weaponized vaccines with Gardasil - good Christian boys and girls are chaste until marriage, so vaccination is unnecessary. Sinners get gods punishment. Crazy left-wing people cling to the autism rumors about vaccination. All of this is magnified by politics and propaganda. Certain religious sects punch above their weight because of political factors - you can usually correlate this with measles outbreaks. Foreign influence operations encourage and stoke this stuff to encourage general unrest as well.