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Xebian is the Marie Kondo of Linux distros – it's here to declutter

4 points by lproven 3y ago

chrsw 3y ago
Smaller, simpler, not chasing every latest trend. Interesting. Thanks.
- lproven 3y ago
  Oh good! It looked useful to me. I found there has been a single mention of it before, when it was released: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15199107 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15199107
bdcravens 3y ago
Worth noting that Marie Kondo actually threw in the towel on being so tidy, after giving birth and changing priorities: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jan/30/queen-of-clean-marie-kondo-says-she-has-kind-of-given-up-on-tidying-at-home https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jan/30/queen-o...
- hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
  So you're saying she was playing a character for tv? That's unheard of.
  - meristohm 3y ago
    No, she just changed her approach to clutter. From her books and watching the show, it seems like her brand of decluttering was an expression of her values. Parenthood changed me for the better, and relaxing a bit about clutter seems like a healthy move. It's okay to change.
  - bdcravens 3y ago
    Her best-selling book ("The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up") came out in 2010, her TV show didn't come out until 2019.
    - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
      So you're saying she was playing a character for her book? That's impossible.
      - bdcravens 3y ago
        Nope, saying she had a set of priorities that she shared, and then at some point, her priorities changed. It wasn't never about the techniques, but in executing on one's priorities. In relating it back to the Linux distro being compared to Marie Kondo, the point is that having a small tidy distro isn't a value, unless it matches your computing priorities.
        hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
        Yes but I bet you she's precisely the kind of person that when it matched her priorities, she sold it as a value in itself. Never outsource your critical thinking, I always say.
- lproven 3y ago
  So I heard. BTW, I wrote the article and I submitted it, but I didn't write the title. The editors often do not use writers' titles. :-)
em500 3y ago
Not a great article: I learned that this is a slightly tweaked Debian Sid (different installer, XFCE with some theme/setting changes), but now how it's actually better than just using Debian Sid.
- lproven 3y ago
  [OP/author here] It's not better than using Debian Sid. I didn't claim it was. Install it and you are using Debian Sid. The difference, the only difference, is that it's quicker and easier to install than Debian Sid. That's it. That's the story. Sensible defaults, no cruft, minimal questions during setup, just straight to a working config with the absolute minimum of effort.
hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
What's wrong with debian?
- lproven 3y ago
  [OP/author here] There's nothing wrong with Debian, if you know how to set up Debian. But if was easy to set up Debian and get a working desktop without a fair degree of knowledge and expertise, then Ubuntu would never have happened. And yet, it did and it's big and has at least twice as many users as Debian itself... Plus all those on Mint etc.

4 points by lproven 3y ago

chrsw 3y ago

Smaller, simpler, not chasing every latest trend. Interesting. Thanks.

lproven 3y ago
Oh good! It looked useful to me. I found there has been a single mention of it before, when it was released: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15199107 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15199107

bdcravens 3y ago

Worth noting that Marie Kondo actually threw in the towel on being so tidy, after giving birth and changing priorities: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jan/30/queen-of-clean-marie-kondo-says-she-has-kind-of-given-up-on-tidying-at-home https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jan/30/queen-o...

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
So you're saying she was playing a character for tv? That's unheard of.
- meristohm 3y ago
  No, she just changed her approach to clutter. From her books and watching the show, it seems like her brand of decluttering was an expression of her values. Parenthood changed me for the better, and relaxing a bit about clutter seems like a healthy move. It's okay to change.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Her best-selling book ("The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up") came out in 2010, her TV show didn't come out until 2019.
  - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
    So you're saying she was playing a character for her book? That's impossible.
    - bdcravens 3y ago
      Nope, saying she had a set of priorities that she shared, and then at some point, her priorities changed. It wasn't never about the techniques, but in executing on one's priorities. In relating it back to the Linux distro being compared to Marie Kondo, the point is that having a small tidy distro isn't a value, unless it matches your computing priorities.
      - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
        Yes but I bet you she's precisely the kind of person that when it matched her priorities, she sold it as a value in itself. Never outsource your critical thinking, I always say.
lproven 3y ago
So I heard. BTW, I wrote the article and I submitted it, but I didn't write the title. The editors often do not use writers' titles. :-)

em500 3y ago

Not a great article: I learned that this is a slightly tweaked Debian Sid (different installer, XFCE with some theme/setting changes), but now how it's actually better than just using Debian Sid.

lproven 3y ago
[OP/author here] It's not better than using Debian Sid. I didn't claim it was. Install it and you are using Debian Sid. The difference, the only difference, is that it's quicker and easier to install than Debian Sid. That's it. That's the story. Sensible defaults, no cruft, minimal questions during setup, just straight to a working config with the absolute minimum of effort.

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago

What's wrong with debian?

lproven 3y ago
[OP/author here] There's nothing wrong with Debian, if you know how to set up Debian. But if was easy to set up Debian and get a working desktop without a fair degree of knowledge and expertise, then Ubuntu would never have happened. And yet, it did and it's big and has at least twice as many users as Debian itself... Plus all those on Mint etc.