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Is there something else going on here? The screen above would have no square icons or ui elements with rectangular pixels. Did everyone just adjust their CRT so

by 83457 3y ago

Is there something else going on here? The screen above would have no square icons or ui elements with rectangular pixels. Did everyone just adjust their CRT so the image would fill the 4:3 even if it distorted the image?

adrianmsmith 3y ago
I'm not sure there's anything in that first image that is actually square (and thus would become not-square) if the image was expanded vertically. But look at the clock icon at the bottom, that could definitely do with some vertical expansion to make it circular.
teddyh 3y ago
The icons were not square. The image was not “distorted” when displayed as 4:3; it was designed to look that way. Non-square pixels are, in fact, a thing.
pjc50 3y ago
> Did everyone just adjust their CRT so the image would fill the 4:3 even if it distorted the image? Yes? I never saw a "letterboxed" CRT. I think I'm with the people who are suspicious of the Windows 1.0 screenshot. Is there an emulator somewhere we can check with?
anonymfus 3y ago
Look at the clock "icon", it's squashed vertically. If you apply 4:3 aspect ratio, it becomes round. https://www.reddit.com/r/imageuploads/comments/15zxpka/windows_10_screenshot_resized_for_43_aspect_ratio/ https://www.reddit.com/r/imageuploads/comments/15zxpka/windo... Note that "icon" here is the minimised state of the window, and the clock application draws itself in that state with the same code as in the normal state, and so it utilises screen metrics, while other minimised applications just call default windows procedure which puts bitmaps on the screen.
adamrezich 3y ago
here's another demonstrative example of non-square pixels, in DOOM https://static.doomworld.com/monthly_2018_12/1852714106_ScreenShot2018-12-12at9_50_04AM.crushed.png.506bca112150d0cb0304db4fc6db1200.png https://static.doomworld.com/monthly_2018_12/1852714106_Scre...

by 83457 3y ago

adrianmsmith 3y ago

I'm not sure there's anything in that first image that is actually square (and thus would become not-square) if the image was expanded vertically. But look at the clock icon at the bottom, that could definitely do with some vertical expansion to make it circular.

teddyh 3y ago

The icons were not square. The image was not “distorted” when displayed as 4:3; it was designed to look that way. Non-square pixels are, in fact, a thing.

pjc50 3y ago

> Did everyone just adjust their CRT so the image would fill the 4:3 even if it distorted the image? Yes? I never saw a "letterboxed" CRT. I think I'm with the people who are suspicious of the Windows 1.0 screenshot. Is there an emulator somewhere we can check with?

anonymfus 3y ago

Look at the clock "icon", it's squashed vertically. If you apply 4:3 aspect ratio, it becomes round. https://www.reddit.com/r/imageuploads/comments/15zxpka/windows_10_screenshot_resized_for_43_aspect_ratio/ https://www.reddit.com/r/imageuploads/comments/15zxpka/windo... Note that "icon" here is the minimised state of the window, and the clock application draws itself in that state with the same code as in the normal state, and so it utilises screen metrics, while other minimised applications just call default windows procedure which puts bitmaps on the screen.

adamrezich 3y ago

here's another demonstrative example of non-square pixels, in DOOM https://static.doomworld.com/monthly_2018_12/1852714106_ScreenShot2018-12-12at9_50_04AM.crushed.png.506bca112150d0cb0304db4fc6db1200.png https://static.doomworld.com/monthly_2018_12/1852714106_Scre...