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Crazy thing is that intelligence doesn't mean you get the right answer. Humans get the answer right fewer times than AI. It's absolutely not AGI, but it's not

by m00x 3y ago

Crazy thing is that intelligence doesn't mean you get the right answer. Humans get the answer right fewer times than AI. It's absolutely not AGI, but it's not "not the road to AGI". Every step forward could be the road to AGI.

ggm 3y ago
Could is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. People have been hypothesising about the nature of mind and intelligence for a long time. There is no compelling connectionist, moar-will-work, it-can-learn-to-think model, which infers the nature of intelligence and how that relates to GAN or GPT or any of what people are doing now. What people are doing now is amazing. I love looking at pictures of the pope in puffer jackets. I love "this person does not exist" It could be on the road to AGI, but then, I could win lotto. and I do enter lotto, even knowing the odds. The thing is I don't plan as if I WILL win lotto and a lot of "this AI could be the road to AGI" is about planning as if it will, to secure a slice of the future. It could? yea. But, it isn't.
- visarga 3y ago
  The future will probably have amazing computers and models, but what we already have has the capacity to profoundly change the world. I don't think you are focusing on what matters most. It's really the language itself that contains the intelligence, not the AI models. The models are just vessels for absorbing all that knowledge encoded in text. Just like human brains - we can have different neural wiring but learn the same things through education. So the huge datasets these AI systems are trained on are key. That's how models like GPT-4 gain such language understanding. The architecture matters less than all that linguistic data it ingests. And language has been evolving for millennia, long before AI. It replicates through culture, speech, writing. Now with AI it has a whole new medium. Fascinating question - how will AI affect language evolution going forward? As models produce more human-like text, which can further train better models, it's like a Lamarckian evolution. Acquired linguistic intelligence gets absorbed by AI then improved and propagated back into the corpus. So while AI tech will keep advancing, it's language evolution that's most profound. By creating this new way for language to evolve, AI could really reshape cultural evolution. Since language enables intelligence, it'll have big impacts on where AI is headed next.
lewhoo 3y ago
Humans get the answer right fewer times than AI Maybe individually but not collectively. Let's not forget that we are the authors of the data AI consumed, although very few of us actually made a difference - myself included. If something like AGI is truly possible it will replace our process of discovery and creativity, arguably one of our best features. We need to know if it's better than ALL of us rather than any of us because arguably all of us will make that sacrifice.

by m00x 3y ago

ggm 3y ago

Could is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. People have been hypothesising about the nature of mind and intelligence for a long time. There is no compelling connectionist, moar-will-work, it-can-learn-to-think model, which infers the nature of intelligence and how that relates to GAN or GPT or any of what people are doing now. What people are doing now is amazing. I love looking at pictures of the pope in puffer jackets. I love "this person does not exist" It could be on the road to AGI, but then, I could win lotto. and I do enter lotto, even knowing the odds. The thing is I don't plan as if I WILL win lotto and a lot of "this AI could be the road to AGI" is about planning as if it will, to secure a slice of the future. It could? yea. But, it isn't.

visarga 3y ago
The future will probably have amazing computers and models, but what we already have has the capacity to profoundly change the world. I don't think you are focusing on what matters most. It's really the language itself that contains the intelligence, not the AI models. The models are just vessels for absorbing all that knowledge encoded in text. Just like human brains - we can have different neural wiring but learn the same things through education. So the huge datasets these AI systems are trained on are key. That's how models like GPT-4 gain such language understanding. The architecture matters less than all that linguistic data it ingests. And language has been evolving for millennia, long before AI. It replicates through culture, speech, writing. Now with AI it has a whole new medium. Fascinating question - how will AI affect language evolution going forward? As models produce more human-like text, which can further train better models, it's like a Lamarckian evolution. Acquired linguistic intelligence gets absorbed by AI then improved and propagated back into the corpus. So while AI tech will keep advancing, it's language evolution that's most profound. By creating this new way for language to evolve, AI could really reshape cultural evolution. Since language enables intelligence, it'll have big impacts on where AI is headed next.

lewhoo 3y ago

Humans get the answer right fewer times than AI Maybe individually but not collectively. Let's not forget that we are the authors of the data AI consumed, although very few of us actually made a difference - myself included. If something like AGI is truly possible it will replace our process of discovery and creativity, arguably one of our best features. We need to know if it's better than ALL of us rather than any of us because arguably all of us will make that sacrifice.