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They did, Discourse is basically just a plain old forum -- with a somewhat newer coat of paint. > Is it the lacking of "one-click setup" forum services? I'm a

They did, Discourse is basically just a plain old forum -- with a somewhat newer coat of paint. > Is it the lacking of "one-click setup" forum services? I'm a bit biased (since I run a tiny managed service provider) -- would you create a forum if it had one click setup? Services like Discourse and NodeBB do offer this kind of service, so it seems like the option is there.

raincole 3y ago
> would you create a forum if it had one click setup? The only reason I'd be hesitate to create a forum is that I think people (not me) might actually prefer Discord and I'm doing a disservice for them. So it's like Catch 22.
- hardwaresofton 3y ago
  Ah I could see that -- I personally think that forums and Discord are actually different mediums, for different purposes. Slack/Discord/Mattermost/Matrix is great for frenetic conversation and water cooler chat, but it just feels like history and long term knowledge doesn't get built easily there. It's like the difference between old school forums and IRC -- people generally didn't expect much from ephemeral conversation on IRC. The one exception might be Zulip -- their threaded chat model is actually a blend and is very effective at creating enough mass around a single conversation (i.e. a thread) and making it trackable. That said, I still think forums are a different beast.
FullMetalBitch 3y ago
I have been in forums my whole life and discord is far from them, discord is just a chat akin to irc. Forums and IRC worked together very well, when I was moderating a huge gaming community we had several IRC channels for those who wanted live participation. It's impossible to follow a discussion in discord because when you arrive it may be over and they are talking about something else, that doesn't happen in a forum you can just post and add your take. And managing knowledge is easier in a forum, I can still find my 15 year old replies, or access all the news I created back when I was a mod.
- hardwaresofton 3y ago
  I fully agree with you (and IMO it's just as bad with Slack which people love to use in corporate contexts), see my comment here[0]. I think you may have misread my earlier comment, it says "Discourse" (as in the forum software[1]), not Discord. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37245220 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37245220 [1]: https://discourse.org https://discourse.org
  - FullMetalBitch 3y ago
    Yeah I did misread it.
- seanhunter 3y ago
  Discourse != Discord. He said Discourse. Discourse: https://www.discourse.org/ https://www.discourse.org/ <- a modern-looking old school forum thing Discord: https://discord.com/ https://discord.com/ <- a modern-looking chat thing
  - FullMetalBitch 3y ago
    My bad. Note to self: wake up before replying.
veave 3y ago
>They did, Discourse is basically just a plain old forum -- with a somewhat newer coat of paint. Compared to traditional forum systems such as vbulletin or ipboard, discourse is a pain in the ass to use.
vxNsr 3y ago
I find discourse difficult and confusing to use. Everything seems mixed up together, so it’s never clear what the topic is supposed to be, and scrolling is a nightmare. I actually kinda like pagination as it means I can know where a post basically is even if I didn’t save it, with discourse, if I don’t glance at the date and “write” it to memory there is no way to easily find an old reply without just continually scrolling and hoping I don’t miss it.

raincole 3y ago

> would you create a forum if it had one click setup? The only reason I'd be hesitate to create a forum is that I think people (not me) might actually prefer Discord and I'm doing a disservice for them. So it's like Catch 22.

hardwaresofton 3y ago
Ah I could see that -- I personally think that forums and Discord are actually different mediums, for different purposes. Slack/Discord/Mattermost/Matrix is great for frenetic conversation and water cooler chat, but it just feels like history and long term knowledge doesn't get built easily there. It's like the difference between old school forums and IRC -- people generally didn't expect much from ephemeral conversation on IRC. The one exception might be Zulip -- their threaded chat model is actually a blend and is very effective at creating enough mass around a single conversation (i.e. a thread) and making it trackable. That said, I still think forums are a different beast.

FullMetalBitch 3y ago

I have been in forums my whole life and discord is far from them, discord is just a chat akin to irc. Forums and IRC worked together very well, when I was moderating a huge gaming community we had several IRC channels for those who wanted live participation. It's impossible to follow a discussion in discord because when you arrive it may be over and they are talking about something else, that doesn't happen in a forum you can just post and add your take. And managing knowledge is easier in a forum, I can still find my 15 year old replies, or access all the news I created back when I was a mod.

hardwaresofton 3y ago
I fully agree with you (and IMO it's just as bad with Slack which people love to use in corporate contexts), see my comment here[0]. I think you may have misread my earlier comment, it says "Discourse" (as in the forum software[1]), not Discord. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37245220 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37245220 [1]: https://discourse.org https://discourse.org
- FullMetalBitch 3y ago
  Yeah I did misread it.
seanhunter 3y ago
Discourse != Discord. He said Discourse. Discourse: https://www.discourse.org/ https://www.discourse.org/ <- a modern-looking old school forum thing Discord: https://discord.com/ https://discord.com/ <- a modern-looking chat thing
- FullMetalBitch 3y ago
  My bad. Note to self: wake up before replying.

veave 3y ago

>They did, Discourse is basically just a plain old forum -- with a somewhat newer coat of paint. Compared to traditional forum systems such as vbulletin or ipboard, discourse is a pain in the ass to use.

vxNsr 3y ago

I find discourse difficult and confusing to use. Everything seems mixed up together, so it’s never clear what the topic is supposed to be, and scrolling is a nightmare. I actually kinda like pagination as it means I can know where a post basically is even if I didn’t save it, with discourse, if I don’t glance at the date and “write” it to memory there is no way to easily find an old reply without just continually scrolling and hoping I don’t miss it.