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Holy superiority complex batman. I suppose you're right - health is the most precious thing over all else, and people who value silly things like socializing in

Holy superiority complex batman. I suppose you're right - health is the most precious thing over all else, and people who value silly things like socializing indoors over a meal have no one but themselves to blame if humanity is wiped out by a suddenly deadly variant. I get it - many people have returned to pre-pandemic behavior (I'd hoped we'd at least keep masking when sick with anything) but this type of comment is certainly not going to win hearts and change opinions.

nikolay 3y ago
Well, I do see people, I do go places. In fact, I do it probably more willingly as I know I won't get covid, or flu, or anything that will ruin my time. Yes, I know, people love eating together - that's primitive like wolves or lions devouring an animal they've killed. People can socialize in so many ways and eating is probably the worst kind.
Krssst 3y ago
How does protecting one's own health relate to having a superiority complex?
- egberts1 3y ago
  When the tiniest water droplet cannot be stopped by an N95 mask. After all, the entire length of a single COVID virus is only 70-90nm long. What was the manufacturer-rated N95 stopping power of particle size again? 95% at 300nm! And it quickly goes south after that. Also, because of ANY sufficiently virial load, the water droplets are even smaller. Don't try and pull that nonsense of a human breathing action having cause a Brownian Motion to being able to catch even smaller particles because all cited papers mention unnatural atmospheric pressure (1800 mbar) to achieve this kind of filtering. So, superiority complex, indeed. Might as well wear a simple cloth mask. :-/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579175/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579175/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8436814/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8436814/
  - tiberious726 3y ago
    300nm is specifically the size the filters are worst at collecting. Below that, _eletrostatic_ forces kick in, and they're much better than 95%.
    - egberts1 3y ago
      Citation, please, like I do.
      - ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
        https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protectio... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8452097/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8452097/
        egberts1 3y ago
        First link is an article that merely summarize following link. Not exactly the peer-reviewable source. Second link also has zero “actionable” citation and scarily so, has a paltry 84 citations-by. Making this actionless, “citation-free” paper an even terrible source. Sole reference: https://www.pnas.org/syndication/doi/10.1073/pnas.2110117118 https://www.pnas.org/syndication/doi/10.1073/pnas.2110117118
      - tiberious726 3y ago
        It's like the second result when you Google for n95 electrostatic: https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pof/article/32/9/093304/1060745/Recharging-and-rejuvenation-of-decontaminated-N95 https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pof/article/32/9/093304/1060745/Rec... (read the first section (not the abstract)) It was actually a really cool story when this happened during the pandemic. The original inventor of the current n95 mask production technique came out of retirement to help out.
        egberts1 3y ago
        Cool whitepaper, bro. Too bad that the whitepaper's test sensors only works on particles greater than 300nm. But it does rejuvenate the mask for another working day and alleviate N95 mask shortages. But does not measure for virus-sized water-based particles.
nvm0n2 3y ago
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nikolay 3y ago

Well, I do see people, I do go places. In fact, I do it probably more willingly as I know I won't get covid, or flu, or anything that will ruin my time. Yes, I know, people love eating together - that's primitive like wolves or lions devouring an animal they've killed. People can socialize in so many ways and eating is probably the worst kind.

Krssst 3y ago

How does protecting one's own health relate to having a superiority complex?

egberts1 3y ago
When the tiniest water droplet cannot be stopped by an N95 mask. After all, the entire length of a single COVID virus is only 70-90nm long. What was the manufacturer-rated N95 stopping power of particle size again? 95% at 300nm! And it quickly goes south after that. Also, because of ANY sufficiently virial load, the water droplets are even smaller. Don't try and pull that nonsense of a human breathing action having cause a Brownian Motion to being able to catch even smaller particles because all cited papers mention unnatural atmospheric pressure (1800 mbar) to achieve this kind of filtering. So, superiority complex, indeed. Might as well wear a simple cloth mask. :-/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579175/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579175/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8436814/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8436814/
- tiberious726 3y ago
  300nm is specifically the size the filters are worst at collecting. Below that, _eletrostatic_ forces kick in, and they're much better than 95%.
  - egberts1 3y ago
    Citation, please, like I do.
    - ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
      https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protectio... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8452097/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8452097/
      - egberts1 3y ago
        First link is an article that merely summarize following link. Not exactly the peer-reviewable source. Second link also has zero “actionable” citation and scarily so, has a paltry 84 citations-by. Making this actionless, “citation-free” paper an even terrible source. Sole reference: https://www.pnas.org/syndication/doi/10.1073/pnas.2110117118 https://www.pnas.org/syndication/doi/10.1073/pnas.2110117118
    - tiberious726 3y ago
      It's like the second result when you Google for n95 electrostatic: https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pof/article/32/9/093304/1060745/Recharging-and-rejuvenation-of-decontaminated-N95 https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pof/article/32/9/093304/1060745/Rec... (read the first section (not the abstract)) It was actually a really cool story when this happened during the pandemic. The original inventor of the current n95 mask production technique came out of retirement to help out.
      - egberts1 3y ago
        Cool whitepaper, bro. Too bad that the whitepaper's test sensors only works on particles greater than 300nm. But it does rejuvenate the mask for another working day and alleviate N95 mask shortages. But does not measure for virus-sized water-based particles.

nvm0n2 3y ago

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