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That's a strange title. Russian warlord Prigozhin who challenged Putin 2 month ago is dead (together with 9 others) after his plane was shut down in Russia by
by p1esk 3y ago
That's a strange title.
Russian warlord Prigozhin who challenged Putin 2 month ago is dead (together with 9 others) after his plane was shut down in Russia by a rocket (most likely an execution ordered by Putin).
- nicce 3y agoWe have seen those titles everywhere. This one was interesting! (Flightradar context)
- dilyevsky 3y agoThe rocket thing is unconfirmed - it was too high for most AA systems except buk/s-300/400 class as the flightradar data suggests and at least from some pics of the wreck that are circulating online you can’t see the damage that you’d expect from such massive missile.
- dylan604 3y agowhy does it have to be AA? why not air-to-air?
- dilyevsky 3y agoYes it could be air to air but then someone would see a second plane. Device that was planted onboard seems way easier tho Oh also you’d see very characteristic tail wing damage and pics show it nearly intact on the ground
- nvy 3y agoThe altitude was trivially in range of Pantsir systems, of which Russia has many. The Pantsir-fired missiles are fragmentation weapons that basically shoot out metal rods like a hand grenade, and take the target down by catastrophically damaging the control surfaces and engines, rather than turning it into a fireball.
- dilyevsky 3y agoPanstir range is very short - wikipedia says 20km. It would need to be deployed at exact right spot. Why risk it when you can take it out with s-300 from a comfortable distance?
- nvy 3y agoDepends on the version. Newer models double that range, but either way 30000ft is only about 10 km, so if you control Rosaviatsiya you can just instruct ATC to send the aircraft over a particular area where you've pre-positioned your asset. Anyways I'm not saying it wasn't an S-300 but Pantsirs are easy to deploy. It's a single truck. We'll probably never know the truth.
- dilyevsky 3y agoI’m def leaning towards a planted device. Any kind of aa system needs involvement from mod and there are many sympathizers and the kill chain will be long. Planting a device in a parked plane sounds like something fsb can pull off on their own without too many people involved
- nvy 3y agoThe footage I've seen pretty clearly shows a missile plume.
- dilyevsky 3y agoI'm no expert but that plume could just as well be from explosion and there are no contrails visible. Also another point - SBIRS would likely detect the launch if it took place so we may actually know if us intelligence decides to leak that (which I'd expect they would).