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I cannot imagine the effect a ruling like this would have on businesses if you actually got your way. It would very clearly lay out that investing in an ecosyst

by ecf 3y ago

I cannot imagine the effect a ruling like this would have on businesses if you actually got your way. It would very clearly lay out that investing in an ecosystem of hardware products and doing it well will only result in all that investment, time, energy, employee sweat and tears, ALL OF IT, to be rendered useless. Basically setting an entire business on fire. Quite frankly I find it ridiculous people here are even suggesting this.

arrosenberg 3y ago
That's hysterical. If I had my way, Apple would be required by law to allow fair and reasonable pricing, alternate app stores, as well as transparency in whatever bureaucratic decisions they make. They'd still make an absurd amount of money on their hardware. I find it ridiculous that we allow a private company to act as regulator over any sector of the economy, let alone one they have over 50% market share in.
- ecf 3y ago
  > I find it ridiculous that we allow a private company to act as regulator over any sector of the economy, let alone one they have over 50% market share in. If you feel that way then there are countries with economic models that don’t allow this. Venezuela comes to mind. Maybe you should relocate there so you can experience the outcome of heavy handed government control.
  - arrosenberg 3y ago
    Again with the hysterical straw man. Right now I'm experiencing the outcome of heavy handed corporate control. There are a whole range of outcomes between that and full state control of the markets. Do you believe that competitive markets are good? The App Store isn't one, I'm advocating for more competition, more trade and prosperity.
    - ecf 3y ago
      > Right now I'm experiencing the outcome of heavy handed corporate control Except, you’re not? Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to use an iPhone. There are other options instead of crying on the internet about how bad Apple is.
      - arrosenberg 3y ago
        App store bud, try and focus. No one is claiming Apple has a problem on the hardware side. If I buy an iPhone, can I get any apps I want? No, I have to use the Apple app store. Vertical integration is anticompetitive and de jure illegal. I’m sorry you don’t understand the concepts of antitrust law, try reading the Tim Wu book.

by ecf 3y ago

arrosenberg 3y ago

That's hysterical. If I had my way, Apple would be required by law to allow fair and reasonable pricing, alternate app stores, as well as transparency in whatever bureaucratic decisions they make. They'd still make an absurd amount of money on their hardware. I find it ridiculous that we allow a private company to act as regulator over any sector of the economy, let alone one they have over 50% market share in.

ecf 3y ago
> I find it ridiculous that we allow a private company to act as regulator over any sector of the economy, let alone one they have over 50% market share in. If you feel that way then there are countries with economic models that don’t allow this. Venezuela comes to mind. Maybe you should relocate there so you can experience the outcome of heavy handed government control.
- arrosenberg 3y ago
  Again with the hysterical straw man. Right now I'm experiencing the outcome of heavy handed corporate control. There are a whole range of outcomes between that and full state control of the markets. Do you believe that competitive markets are good? The App Store isn't one, I'm advocating for more competition, more trade and prosperity.
  - ecf 3y ago
    > Right now I'm experiencing the outcome of heavy handed corporate control Except, you’re not? Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to use an iPhone. There are other options instead of crying on the internet about how bad Apple is.
    - arrosenberg 3y ago
      App store bud, try and focus. No one is claiming Apple has a problem on the hardware side. If I buy an iPhone, can I get any apps I want? No, I have to use the Apple app store. Vertical integration is anticompetitive and de jure illegal. I’m sorry you don’t understand the concepts of antitrust law, try reading the Tim Wu book.