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2017, code link: https://github.com/seaglass-project/seaglass https://github.com/seaglass-project/seaglass Pi connected to a Cell modem, mobile hotspot, and "b

2017, code link: https://github.com/seaglass-project/seaglass https://github.com/seaglass-project/seaglass Pi connected to a Cell modem, mobile hotspot, and "bait phone" ... and a separate GPS. All powered by wall warts off an inverter to the car's 12v system. This makes me feel better about my own systems designs.

physhster 3y ago
I was going to mention that but you beat me to it... The power distribution is not very efficient, but hey, if it's stupid and it works, then it's not stupid.
- msla 3y ago
  > if it's stupid and it works, then it's not stupid. I hate this phrase. Leaded gasoline worked, but it was so stupid it actively made people stupid. Storing passwords plaintext works, but the first time your system gets broken into it's a massive problem. Driving at 80 mph in a rainstorm is stupid and it works until it rather spectacularly doesn't.
  - giantrobot 3y ago
    The "works" part of the phrase does a lot of heavy lifting. Things can "work" in one dimension/context and fail in others. Stupid things can also "work" in several dimensions/contexts as well as smarter solutions.
  - HWR_14 3y ago
    I always heard it used for things that were overbuilt and required too many resources, especially human resources. Door motion detector broken? a human hitting a manual door open button when they see people is "stupid but it works". Need to build a bridge but don't have an engineer? Piling rubble in the water until you get a path across is "stupid but it works".
  - niloc132 3y ago
    “43. If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky.” https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/SchlockMercenary https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/SchlockMercena...
  - darkclouds 3y ago
    > Leaded gasoline worked, but it was so stupid it actively made people stupid. Yeah and airborn nickel causes cystic fibrosis with the highest concentrations found in the home in built up areas, blown in like dust, and inhaled Methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl causes but doesnt cause Parkinsons. Surprising what the scientists can find but wont put their names to it.
- dylan604 3y ago
  This is the docker version of hardware prototyping.
- monocasa 3y ago
  To be fair, the conversion to AC to go through a transformer on each wart imparts a decent amount of isolation on the voltage supply side. Does that actually matter? Probably not, but I find the comparison to Docker apropos. Sometimes it's just easier to add/keep abstraction/isolation simply on the small off chance that it's lack does get in your way as long as that abstraction/isloation itself doesn't get too much in your way.
NietTim 3y ago
Research projects dont need to be "production ready" though
- sitzkrieg 3y ago
  yeah was going to mention this, sounds like prototype is working with COTS parts
  - callalex 3y ago
    Cost of tech? sold?
    - h2odragon 3y ago
      Commercial Off The Shelf
thedougd 3y ago
Yeah. I went down the rabbit hole of ways to remove most of those components but I guess it’s easy to instruct others on how to setup. Hotspots often support NEMA GPS protocol to use them as a GPS receiver. All those devices could be powered more efficiently with a DC to DC power supply.
giantg2 3y ago
If it works, it works

physhster 3y ago

I was going to mention that but you beat me to it... The power distribution is not very efficient, but hey, if it's stupid and it works, then it's not stupid.

msla 3y ago
> if it's stupid and it works, then it's not stupid. I hate this phrase. Leaded gasoline worked, but it was so stupid it actively made people stupid. Storing passwords plaintext works, but the first time your system gets broken into it's a massive problem. Driving at 80 mph in a rainstorm is stupid and it works until it rather spectacularly doesn't.
- giantrobot 3y ago
  The "works" part of the phrase does a lot of heavy lifting. Things can "work" in one dimension/context and fail in others. Stupid things can also "work" in several dimensions/contexts as well as smarter solutions.
- HWR_14 3y ago
  I always heard it used for things that were overbuilt and required too many resources, especially human resources. Door motion detector broken? a human hitting a manual door open button when they see people is "stupid but it works". Need to build a bridge but don't have an engineer? Piling rubble in the water until you get a path across is "stupid but it works".
- niloc132 3y ago
  “43. If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky.” https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/SchlockMercenary https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/SchlockMercena...
- darkclouds 3y ago
  > Leaded gasoline worked, but it was so stupid it actively made people stupid. Yeah and airborn nickel causes cystic fibrosis with the highest concentrations found in the home in built up areas, blown in like dust, and inhaled Methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl causes but doesnt cause Parkinsons. Surprising what the scientists can find but wont put their names to it.
dylan604 3y ago
This is the docker version of hardware prototyping.
monocasa 3y ago
To be fair, the conversion to AC to go through a transformer on each wart imparts a decent amount of isolation on the voltage supply side. Does that actually matter? Probably not, but I find the comparison to Docker apropos. Sometimes it's just easier to add/keep abstraction/isolation simply on the small off chance that it's lack does get in your way as long as that abstraction/isloation itself doesn't get too much in your way.

NietTim 3y ago

Research projects dont need to be "production ready" though

sitzkrieg 3y ago
yeah was going to mention this, sounds like prototype is working with COTS parts
- callalex 3y ago
  Cost of tech? sold?
  - h2odragon 3y ago
    Commercial Off The Shelf

thedougd 3y ago

Yeah. I went down the rabbit hole of ways to remove most of those components but I guess it’s easy to instruct others on how to setup. Hotspots often support NEMA GPS protocol to use them as a GPS receiver. All those devices could be powered more efficiently with a DC to DC power supply.

giantg2 3y ago

If it works, it works