> I'd say hunters care a lot more about, and do more for, nature in their local ecosystem than your average city dwelling vegan hipster. I don't think you've m

> I'd say hunters care a lot more about, and do more for, nature in their local ecosystem than your average city dwelling vegan hipster. I don't think you've met many vegan hipsters, as while I can't claim to be either of those things I've known many, many of them and would pretty much universally disagree with you. (Though a) I'm in UK which maybe makes a different compared to where you are, and b) anecdotes are of course not data, and the one thing we can say for sure is that within types of people such as "vegan" or "hunter" there are certainly going to be some who are absolute cunts, some who are practically angels, and everything in between. But despite only having anecdotes not data, I feel pretty confident in my anecdotal experience backing up the notion that the average vegan is generally going to care more about animals than the average non-vegan).