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I’m pretty sure the 3000 limit is not at all a huge issue in any of those cases pretty much anywhere in Europe and bank transfers are also cheap and instant. N

I’m pretty sure the 3000 limit is not at all a huge issue in any of those cases pretty much anywhere in Europe and bank transfers are also cheap and instant. Not that I agree with this ban. I really don’t but focusing on farmers specifically is very strange when farming is so heavily commercialized, especially in the Netherlands.

TechBro8615 3y ago
Bank transfers are cheap and instant when both parties in the transaction have a working bank account, which means they had a residence where they could receive mail, which means they had government identification, etc.
- mistrial9 3y ago
  having an address and ID is not so much a problem, it is keeping your address and ID valid once a few dozen people in authority can live for years by charging money for lots of reasons to renew them, and perhaps also problems for you if you do not behave. This is as old as countries themselves. You must be intellectually dishonest to ignore these historically crucial patterns.
- ffhhttt 3y ago
  You can get a functioning bank account usually in less than 30 minutes by downloading an app as long as you have a valid ID (no verified address is needed) But yeah, if you’re not a citizen and don’t live in the EU it might be tricky (then again AFAIK bringing large amounts of cash from a third country is not that straightforward either). What does this have to do with Dutch farmers, though?
- silvestrov 3y ago
  EU is working towards requiring banks to provide homeless EU citizens with a bank account. Some countries have already implemented this. https://koronapay.com/transfers/europe/en/blog/how-to-open-a-bank-account-in-europe/ https://koronapay.com/transfers/europe/en/blog/how-to-open-a... For paper mails some shelters allow for picking up post and in some countries you can get the mail as "Poste Restante" (i.e. pick up at post office).
- taylorius 3y ago
  Then people will surely use bank transfers voluntarily, eh? Why make them illegal?
cpursley 3y ago
Farming is under attack all throughout the EU, especially the Netherlands.
- ffhhttt 3y ago
  How? Also, again, how is this specifically harming farmers more than anyone else?

TechBro8615 3y ago

Bank transfers are cheap and instant when both parties in the transaction have a working bank account, which means they had a residence where they could receive mail, which means they had government identification, etc.

mistrial9 3y ago
having an address and ID is not so much a problem, it is keeping your address and ID valid once a few dozen people in authority can live for years by charging money for lots of reasons to renew them, and perhaps also problems for you if you do not behave. This is as old as countries themselves. You must be intellectually dishonest to ignore these historically crucial patterns.
ffhhttt 3y ago
You can get a functioning bank account usually in less than 30 minutes by downloading an app as long as you have a valid ID (no verified address is needed) But yeah, if you’re not a citizen and don’t live in the EU it might be tricky (then again AFAIK bringing large amounts of cash from a third country is not that straightforward either). What does this have to do with Dutch farmers, though?
silvestrov 3y ago
EU is working towards requiring banks to provide homeless EU citizens with a bank account. Some countries have already implemented this. https://koronapay.com/transfers/europe/en/blog/how-to-open-a-bank-account-in-europe/ https://koronapay.com/transfers/europe/en/blog/how-to-open-a... For paper mails some shelters allow for picking up post and in some countries you can get the mail as "Poste Restante" (i.e. pick up at post office).
taylorius 3y ago
Then people will surely use bank transfers voluntarily, eh? Why make them illegal?

cpursley 3y ago

Farming is under attack all throughout the EU, especially the Netherlands.

ffhhttt 3y ago
How? Also, again, how is this specifically harming farmers more than anyone else?