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Can't read Dutch, but I'm pretty sure there is a version of "muh' terrorism!" in there.

by dudul 3y ago

badestrand 3y ago
Good guess! "Money Laundering Action Plan Act Amendment of the Money Laundering and Terrorist Financing Prevention Act in connection with the ban on cash payments for goods from 3,000 euros and the expansion of the options for information exchange for the gatekeeper function." From https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/detail?cfg=wetsvoorsteldetails&qry=wetsvoorstel%3A36228 https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/deta..., translated by Chrome/Google Translate.
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imchillyb 3y ago
> Money Laundering Action Plan Act > Amendment of the Money Laundering and Terrorist Financing Prevention Act in connection with the prohibition of cash payments for goods from 3,000 euros and the expansion of the possibilities for information exchange for the gatekeeper function. > https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/detail?cfg=wetsvoorsteldetails&qry=wetsvoorstel%3A36228 https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/deta... Yup. Another anti-terrorism bill aimed at the general populace, instead of terrorists.
frankzander 3y ago
They have a cocain problem there ...
- cies 3y ago
  Who said it's a problem?
  - yourusername 3y ago
    The bombs going off almost daily in the big cities aren't great.
    - Ylpertnodi 3y ago
      Could you define 'almost daily', and also clarify - which big cities?
      - yourusername 3y ago
        Rotterdam, Amsterdam. Amsterdam had 100 explosions in 2022, Rotterdam 50. But in 2023 there were 250 explosions by the 16th of July. Will probably end the year with over 1 explosion per day on average, i'd consider that "almost daily". Just to clarify these aren't accidental explosions but bombs left outside appartments and shops.
  - Mashimo 3y ago
    Reporters get murdered and royalties get threats. Did some witness not also get killed?
    - cies 3y ago
      That because of criminalizing it. The users of coke in NL have little problems with it (not worse than alcohol research has shown).
- bboygravity 3y ago
  This will surely fix the cocaine maffia problem! And the Russian olicharch/maffia sanction evasions in Amsterdam while we're at it. Why not? Just ban cash! Poof all those problems gone!
- mistrial9 3y ago
  vice in many forms is a problem, of a certain degree. Justice has long held a principled view that punishment must be proportional to the crime. Social studies and medical literature go further and find that moral behavior does not respond to command and control. With that said - are reasonable people suggesting that restricting private wealth is a social response to vice? Immediately think to yourself, in a wealthy society, this institutionalizes third party oversight of individual money. Who benefits from that today? Now, who might be pushing this kind of legislation ? This is not the path forward in a free society.
- tremon 3y ago
  The politicians are finding it hard to kick their habits.
yourusername 3y ago
No it's more "muh money laundering". Dutch government also wants banks to reports all transactions over 100 euros. The government is unable to control the crime by the cocaine gangs so these kinds of measure are their "solution".
KaiserPro 3y ago
mostly its "muh industrial scale illegal drug synthesis" Firstly its a fucktonne of cahs sloshing around being laundered, which has a bunch of nasty petty crime sideffects. but also the literal tonnes of toxic waste that keeps on popping up everywhere.
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Can't read Dutch, but I'm pretty sure there is a version of "muh' terrorism!" in there.

by dudul 3y ago

Can't read Dutch, but I'm pretty sure there is a version of "muh' terrorism!" in there.

Good guess! "Money Laundering Action Plan Act Amendment of the Money Laundering and Terrorist Financing Prevention Act in connection with the ban on cash payments for goods from 3,000 euros and the expansion of the options for information exchange for the gatekeeper function." From https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/detail?cfg=wetsvoorsteldetails&qry=wetsvoorstel%3A36228 https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/deta..., translated by Chrome/Google Translate.

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imchillyb 3y ago

> Money Laundering Action Plan Act > Amendment of the Money Laundering and Terrorist Financing Prevention Act in connection with the prohibition of cash payments for goods from 3,000 euros and the expansion of the possibilities for information exchange for the gatekeeper function. > https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/detail?cfg=wetsvoorsteldetails&qry=wetsvoorstel%3A36228 https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/deta... Yup. Another anti-terrorism bill aimed at the general populace, instead of terrorists.

frankzander 3y ago

They have a cocain problem there ...

cies 3y ago
Who said it's a problem?
- yourusername 3y ago
  The bombs going off almost daily in the big cities aren't great.
  - Ylpertnodi 3y ago
    Could you define 'almost daily', and also clarify - which big cities?
    - yourusername 3y ago
      Rotterdam, Amsterdam. Amsterdam had 100 explosions in 2022, Rotterdam 50. But in 2023 there were 250 explosions by the 16th of July. Will probably end the year with over 1 explosion per day on average, i'd consider that "almost daily". Just to clarify these aren't accidental explosions but bombs left outside appartments and shops.
- Mashimo 3y ago
  Reporters get murdered and royalties get threats. Did some witness not also get killed?
  - cies 3y ago
    That because of criminalizing it. The users of coke in NL have little problems with it (not worse than alcohol research has shown).
bboygravity 3y ago
This will surely fix the cocaine maffia problem! And the Russian olicharch/maffia sanction evasions in Amsterdam while we're at it. Why not? Just ban cash! Poof all those problems gone!
mistrial9 3y ago
vice in many forms is a problem, of a certain degree. Justice has long held a principled view that punishment must be proportional to the crime. Social studies and medical literature go further and find that moral behavior does not respond to command and control. With that said - are reasonable people suggesting that restricting private wealth is a social response to vice? Immediately think to yourself, in a wealthy society, this institutionalizes third party oversight of individual money. Who benefits from that today? Now, who might be pushing this kind of legislation ? This is not the path forward in a free society.
tremon 3y ago
The politicians are finding it hard to kick their habits.

yourusername 3y ago

No it's more "muh money laundering". Dutch government also wants banks to reports all transactions over 100 euros. The government is unable to control the crime by the cocaine gangs so these kinds of measure are their "solution".

KaiserPro 3y ago

mostly its "muh industrial scale illegal drug synthesis" Firstly its a fucktonne of cahs sloshing around being laundered, which has a bunch of nasty petty crime sideffects. but also the literal tonnes of toxic waste that keeps on popping up everywhere.

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