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I don't deny it has its place for some people, but it's definitely not my experience that >Ruby or Python or C because it's not that much more verbose I've se

I don't deny it has its place for some people, but it's definitely not my experience that >Ruby or Python or C because it's not that much more verbose I've seen some shocking differences in LOC and comprehensibility between Ruby/Python vs. Java code, even when a concerted effort has been made to avoid the typical sins of Java codebases. You might just be more patient than I am, or a better Java programmer. I don't know. All I know is that I end up experiencing kidney failure every time I have to interact with Java code.

dlitz 15y ago
> You might just be more patient than I am, or a better Java programmer. I don't know. All I know is that I end up experiencing kidney failure every time I have to interact with Java code. I don't experience kidney failure, just a sudden urge to scrape my skull against a rough, brick wall. Life is too short for me to spend it dealing with that crap and the community that insists that "Java's not slow", even though it needs gigs and gigs of memory to run (which takes forever to populate and blows your cache), has no shared libraries, no copy-on-write, no memory protection, and no dozens of other things that Unix has had for decades for a reason.