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MacOS window management is one of several things that make users 'compromise on UX' so you should reconsider your statement.

by ris58h 3y ago

GeekyBear 3y ago
> MacOS window management is one of several things that make users 'compromise on UX Using gesture based window management is one of the bigger strengths of the Mac.
- ris58h 3y ago
  1. How can I switch between apps using gestures? 2. What essential features of 'gesture based window management' aren't present on Windows or Linux (GNOME for example)?
  - saagarjha 3y ago
    3 finger swipe down to enter Exposé, then 3 finger swipes left/right.
    - ris58h 3y ago
      Expose doesn't show fullscreen windows of an app.
      - saagarjha 3y ago
        If your apps are fullscreen you can swipe between them already?
  - kec 3y ago
    Swipe up with 4 fingers to enter Mission Control.
    - ris58h 3y ago
      Unfortunately _entering_ Mission Control doesn't switch apps. On Windows it's a 3-finger swipe left/right. It seems like 'one of the bigger strengths of the Mac' is bigger on Windows.
      - kec 3y ago
        That’ll switch spaces which makes more logical sense as they’re stably ordered left to right and apps (unless pinned to a space as a full or split screen app) are not.
        ris58h 3y ago
        > as they’re stably ordered left to right Only if you unchecked 'Automatically rearrange Spaces based on most recent use' in the settings.
        ris58h 3y ago
        > That’ll switch spaces On Windows it's 4-finger swipe left/right but it's not possible to switch between apps on macOS via gestures without 3-rd party apps. That's why I didn't get that 'compromise on UX' statement. MacOS gesture support is poorer compared to Windows (at least for my workflow) but on the hardware side Mac's Trackpad is superior.
        GeekyBear 3y ago
        Gesture based Window management has been around on Macs since early versions of OSX and is feature that Microsoft has attempted to copy, poorly. > An interesting addition is the ability to use a three finger swipe up gesture to activate the new Task View feature of Windows 10. Not only does Task View look like OS X’s Mission Control (Exposé) feature, the three finger swipe up is the same gesture. Microsoft is also borrowing the three finger swipe left and right to activate switching between apps https://www.theverge.com/2014/10/28/7082441/windows-10-new-trackpad-gestures https://www.theverge.com/2014/10/28/7082441/windows-10-new-t... > it's not possible to switch between apps on macOS via gestures It sounds like you aren't quite familiar with how a Mac works.
oneplane 3y ago
So you (and some others) say. But if you have millions of happy and productive users, does it really matter that much?
- ris58h 3y ago
  > millions of happy and productive users So have Linux and Windows. I just didn't get that 'compromises' statement about them.

MacOS window management is one of several things that make users 'compromise on UX' so you should reconsider your statement.

by ris58h 3y ago

MacOS window management is one of several things that make users 'compromise on UX' so you should reconsider your statement.

GeekyBear 3y ago

> MacOS window management is one of several things that make users 'compromise on UX Using gesture based window management is one of the bigger strengths of the Mac.

ris58h 3y ago
1. How can I switch between apps using gestures? 2. What essential features of 'gesture based window management' aren't present on Windows or Linux (GNOME for example)?
- saagarjha 3y ago
  3 finger swipe down to enter Exposé, then 3 finger swipes left/right.
  - ris58h 3y ago
    Expose doesn't show fullscreen windows of an app.
    - saagarjha 3y ago
      If your apps are fullscreen you can swipe between them already?
- kec 3y ago
  Swipe up with 4 fingers to enter Mission Control.
  - ris58h 3y ago
    Unfortunately _entering_ Mission Control doesn't switch apps. On Windows it's a 3-finger swipe left/right. It seems like 'one of the bigger strengths of the Mac' is bigger on Windows.
    - kec 3y ago
      That’ll switch spaces which makes more logical sense as they’re stably ordered left to right and apps (unless pinned to a space as a full or split screen app) are not.
      - ris58h 3y ago
        > as they’re stably ordered left to right Only if you unchecked 'Automatically rearrange Spaces based on most recent use' in the settings.
      - ris58h 3y ago
        > That’ll switch spaces On Windows it's 4-finger swipe left/right but it's not possible to switch between apps on macOS via gestures without 3-rd party apps. That's why I didn't get that 'compromise on UX' statement. MacOS gesture support is poorer compared to Windows (at least for my workflow) but on the hardware side Mac's Trackpad is superior.
        GeekyBear 3y ago
        Gesture based Window management has been around on Macs since early versions of OSX and is feature that Microsoft has attempted to copy, poorly. > An interesting addition is the ability to use a three finger swipe up gesture to activate the new Task View feature of Windows 10. Not only does Task View look like OS X’s Mission Control (Exposé) feature, the three finger swipe up is the same gesture. Microsoft is also borrowing the three finger swipe left and right to activate switching between apps https://www.theverge.com/2014/10/28/7082441/windows-10-new-trackpad-gestures https://www.theverge.com/2014/10/28/7082441/windows-10-new-t... > it's not possible to switch between apps on macOS via gestures It sounds like you aren't quite familiar with how a Mac works.

oneplane 3y ago

So you (and some others) say. But if you have millions of happy and productive users, does it really matter that much?

ris58h 3y ago
> millions of happy and productive users So have Linux and Windows. I just didn't get that 'compromises' statement about them.