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> I've got a macbook pro that the hardware is absolutely above anything available from other vendors How can you say this? They don't have CUDA. Right now M$ +

> I've got a macbook pro that the hardware is absolutely above anything available from other vendors How can you say this? They don't have CUDA. Right now M$ + Nvidia have the market completely cornered :'( Linux + Nvidia suck btw. The only option is M$.

viraptor 3y ago
It depends what you're after. They don't have CUDA, so if you're interested in running something already developed, you're behind. But if you want to develop something new, MPS which is able to use system memory may be a great option too. AMD on Linux is also making at least some waves recently. Still catching up, but it seems like I've seen 100% increase in ROCm posts compared to last year...
- generichuman 3y ago
  Saving people an internet search: MPS = Metal Performance Shaders Apple docs for it: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metalperformanceshaders https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metalperformancesh... PyTorch backend: https://pytorch.org/docs/stable/notes/mps.html https://pytorch.org/docs/stable/notes/mps.html
kaismh 3y ago
Linux and Nvidia work well these days, it has improved greatly from the dark days of "F you Nvidia" by Linus. I have been using KDE Neon with Nvidia/Cuda for several years now with no issues
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  Do you main it with a modern Nvidia GPU? I can speak for someone who has done it. I have not been able to achieve Windows level performance. Plus the time it takes to do things like force the GPU to turn on/be used by the application/OS is nontrivial and I'm a full time programmer. Not to mention when I'm using GPU based applications, my second monitor sometimes freezes. Mostly Steam, but rarely videos. (Not to say Windows didn't have its own problems like forced update/reboot, ads/ragebait news in the start menu, full remote control of your file system.... gross)
  - macNchz 3y ago
    Yeah, I misattributed a lot of minor annoying things with my Linux machine to “general desktop Linux jank” for the past couple of years and would have said Linux+Nvidia was totally fine. Then I replaced my Nvidia GPU with an AMD and realized it was all GPU related.
baq 3y ago
I'm saying in the laptop market. If you're serious about CUDA you want hardware which doesn't fit in a laptop anyway. I agree on the general sentiment that nvidia is expletive expletive expletive.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  I have CUDA in my 3060, Asus. Its only 6GB VRAM, but I can do LORAs.
mymac 3y ago
> Linux + Nvidia suck btw. That's a pretty strong statement. I use both and it's been very smooth sailing for me, switching to Windows is something that comes with so many headaches that I couldn't make the case for it, besides I wouldn't know what to improve compared to how it is today. Using multiple GPUs under linux while also using them to drive a display is perfectly normal. Was there anything specific that you would like to see improved on a Linux/NVidia combo that I may simply never have run into?
physicsguy 3y ago
Which is relevant only if you actually do CUDA development? I've worked using CUDA in the past and usually remoted-d in to a big beefy HPC system anyway, since no laptop would really give you the power needed to exercise the code properly.
mort96 3y ago
CUDA is software. Your parent comment was saying the hardware is great.

viraptor 3y ago

It depends what you're after. They don't have CUDA, so if you're interested in running something already developed, you're behind. But if you want to develop something new, MPS which is able to use system memory may be a great option too. AMD on Linux is also making at least some waves recently. Still catching up, but it seems like I've seen 100% increase in ROCm posts compared to last year...

generichuman 3y ago
Saving people an internet search: MPS = Metal Performance Shaders Apple docs for it: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metalperformanceshaders https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metalperformancesh... PyTorch backend: https://pytorch.org/docs/stable/notes/mps.html https://pytorch.org/docs/stable/notes/mps.html

kaismh 3y ago

Linux and Nvidia work well these days, it has improved greatly from the dark days of "F you Nvidia" by Linus. I have been using KDE Neon with Nvidia/Cuda for several years now with no issues

hospitalJail 3y ago
Do you main it with a modern Nvidia GPU? I can speak for someone who has done it. I have not been able to achieve Windows level performance. Plus the time it takes to do things like force the GPU to turn on/be used by the application/OS is nontrivial and I'm a full time programmer. Not to mention when I'm using GPU based applications, my second monitor sometimes freezes. Mostly Steam, but rarely videos. (Not to say Windows didn't have its own problems like forced update/reboot, ads/ragebait news in the start menu, full remote control of your file system.... gross)
- macNchz 3y ago
  Yeah, I misattributed a lot of minor annoying things with my Linux machine to “general desktop Linux jank” for the past couple of years and would have said Linux+Nvidia was totally fine. Then I replaced my Nvidia GPU with an AMD and realized it was all GPU related.

baq 3y ago

I'm saying in the laptop market. If you're serious about CUDA you want hardware which doesn't fit in a laptop anyway. I agree on the general sentiment that nvidia is expletive expletive expletive.

hospitalJail 3y ago
I have CUDA in my 3060, Asus. Its only 6GB VRAM, but I can do LORAs.

mymac 3y ago

> Linux + Nvidia suck btw. That's a pretty strong statement. I use both and it's been very smooth sailing for me, switching to Windows is something that comes with so many headaches that I couldn't make the case for it, besides I wouldn't know what to improve compared to how it is today. Using multiple GPUs under linux while also using them to drive a display is perfectly normal. Was there anything specific that you would like to see improved on a Linux/NVidia combo that I may simply never have run into?

physicsguy 3y ago

Which is relevant only if you actually do CUDA development? I've worked using CUDA in the past and usually remoted-d in to a big beefy HPC system anyway, since no laptop would really give you the power needed to exercise the code properly.

mort96 3y ago

CUDA is software. Your parent comment was saying the hardware is great.