Also the JVM didn't seem as widespread as flash player in my experience - it was something like a 40+MB download and somewhat-involved install whereas Flash pla

Also the JVM didn't seem as widespread as flash player in my experience - it was something like a 40+MB download and somewhat-involved install whereas Flash player seemed to have been included in the OS or as an easy IE plugin add-on. Can't remember exactly though but this is the experience I vaguely recall.