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Honestly, really tough. I'm an engineering manager with more than 13 years of experience, web dev for much longer. I've been applying since March, as my compa

Honestly, really tough. I'm an engineering manager with more than 13 years of experience, web dev for much longer. I've been applying since March, as my company started showing a lot of signs of toxicity and financial troubles. Last month, less than a year from their previous layoffs, they did another round and was part of it. The majority of the jobs I've applied for didn't answer. A mere 1-2% replied. I had the luck to go through the full interview process with a handful (4 since March) only to be discarded at the very end. The market is definitely over-saturated. To the point that companies have become extremely picky and failing a small thing might mean getting cut off. I'm currently on hold since August was really flat, and will resume in September. Let's see...

caminante 3y ago
I hope you've been applying through referrals, given your stage of career. Online apps are for suckers.
- WinLychee 3y ago
  Referrals are also not a golden ticket right now. Got a few tossed in the bin, we've got a lot of FAANG engineers on the market right now, companies are scooping them up at bargain rates.
  - caminante 3y ago
    I hope things work out for you. > Referrals are also not a golden ticket right now. They were never a "golden ticket." Results are never guaranteed, but some approaches (blindly applying online to job ads) are inferior. My point stands that the parent's approach is flawed. Current supply-demand doesn't explain why parent has only gotten 1-2% responses (not even interviews?) in the course of 5+ months (since March 2023). The parent's comment implies they applied to at least 50 jobs (maybe 100+?). My assumption is that the bulk (all?) of these were non-referred applications, yet, parent has 10+ years of experience and should be exhausting their network for referrals.
    - WinLychee 3y ago
      Yes, things are worked out pretty well, in the end it didn't take long to find _something_ as a dev, but I think early next year should be a good time to apply to "good" companies. In-network people are telling me things are frozen where they're at, and to wait for Q1 next year.

caminante 3y ago

I hope you've been applying through referrals, given your stage of career. Online apps are for suckers.

WinLychee 3y ago
Referrals are also not a golden ticket right now. Got a few tossed in the bin, we've got a lot of FAANG engineers on the market right now, companies are scooping them up at bargain rates.
- caminante 3y ago
  I hope things work out for you. > Referrals are also not a golden ticket right now. They were never a "golden ticket." Results are never guaranteed, but some approaches (blindly applying online to job ads) are inferior. My point stands that the parent's approach is flawed. Current supply-demand doesn't explain why parent has only gotten 1-2% responses (not even interviews?) in the course of 5+ months (since March 2023). The parent's comment implies they applied to at least 50 jobs (maybe 100+?). My assumption is that the bulk (all?) of these were non-referred applications, yet, parent has 10+ years of experience and should be exhausting their network for referrals.
  - WinLychee 3y ago
    Yes, things are worked out pretty well, in the end it didn't take long to find _something_ as a dev, but I think early next year should be a good time to apply to "good" companies. In-network people are telling me things are frozen where they're at, and to wait for Q1 next year.