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> Consumer reports at least is known to be gamed I haven't heard of that. Could you tell us what you're referring to? > and they have specific review methodol

> Consumer reports at least is known to be gamed I haven't heard of that. Could you tell us what you're referring to? > and they have specific review methodology you need to understand and interpret I've ready many Consumer Reports reviews; I don't know what this comment refers to. The style of the graphics in their tables? Their methodology is simply scientific method.

bombcar 3y ago
The one I know best is the toilets, as the “scientific method” has nothing to do with actually using the toilet to eliminate human waste. And since the testing is known and not realistic, manufacturers can build for the test. https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 You have to understand their methodology because they may be ascribing “points” to things you don’t care about at all - especially if you’re looking for longevity.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  > https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 The link is a random Internet person's post from 2000 about a single 1995 Consumer Reports review. > You have to understand their methodology because they may be ascribing “points” to things you don’t care about at all - especially if you’re looking for longevity. Every review everywhere, unless I hire the reviewer personally, will examine factors I am more and factors I am less interested in. They can't simultaneously, precisely serve everyone's varied interests (ok, I guess they could try some social media feed-type algorithm). > the “scientific method” has nothing to do with actually using the toilet to eliminate human waste. That's confusing. The scientific method is to actually do it and report what happens, not talk theoretically or speculatively about it from our basements like the rest of the Internet. CR generally does that (the scientific method) in extensive labs, staffed with experienced scientists and engineers. If you read their toilet reviews, that's what they do - put something in and flush. CR's core product is science, applied to consumer products. > especially if you’re looking for longevity. CR looks at longevity for many products, including extensive surveys of product owners.

bombcar 3y ago

The one I know best is the toilets, as the “scientific method” has nothing to do with actually using the toilet to eliminate human waste. And since the testing is known and not realistic, manufacturers can build for the test. https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 You have to understand their methodology because they may be ascribing “points” to things you don’t care about at all - especially if you’re looking for longevity.

wolverine876 3y ago
> https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 https://seclists.org/politech/2000/Mar/73 The link is a random Internet person's post from 2000 about a single 1995 Consumer Reports review. > You have to understand their methodology because they may be ascribing “points” to things you don’t care about at all - especially if you’re looking for longevity. Every review everywhere, unless I hire the reviewer personally, will examine factors I am more and factors I am less interested in. They can't simultaneously, precisely serve everyone's varied interests (ok, I guess they could try some social media feed-type algorithm). > the “scientific method” has nothing to do with actually using the toilet to eliminate human waste. That's confusing. The scientific method is to actually do it and report what happens, not talk theoretically or speculatively about it from our basements like the rest of the Internet. CR generally does that (the scientific method) in extensive labs, staffed with experienced scientists and engineers. If you read their toilet reviews, that's what they do - put something in and flush. CR's core product is science, applied to consumer products. > especially if you’re looking for longevity. CR looks at longevity for many products, including extensive surveys of product owners.