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>And OpenAI continues to ship. This. Google (specifically their CEO) was saying since at least 2016 that "Google is an AI first company". (Whatever the hell t

>And OpenAI continues to ship. This. Google (specifically their CEO) was saying since at least 2016 that "Google is an AI first company". (Whatever the hell that means). But they had no product to show for and they are on the verge of being the next IBM.

TeMPOraL 3y ago
> Google (specifically their CEO) was saying since at least 2016 that "Google is an AI first company". (Whatever the hell that means). What it means is it's why so many things about Google experience suck so badly. Whether it's what he meant or not, the practical flip side of Google being "AI first company" is that they're "humans last" company. Or, it's a different way of saying they only do things that scale. Telemetry and automated decision making scale. Human review and customer support do not.
pocket_cheese 3y ago
I have lots of criticisms of Google, but let's not forget they have Gmail + workspaces,Google Domains, Android, Google Cloud, Google Fiber, Google Fi, The pixel, Nest, Maps, Youtube, Fitbit, and probably the browser 90% of people on here are using. Would losing search devastate them? Absolutely, but they're not exactly IBM levels of irrelevance without it.
- abatilo 3y ago
  Search is the majority of their revenue so that they can subsidize their other products. Devastation somehow doesn't feel like it properly captures how much it would hurt them to lose it.
- predmijat 3y ago
  Google Domains is sold to Sqaurespace and at least 3 of the things you mentioned are a drop in the ocean.
Manheim 3y ago
Well, it could mean that they are focused on AI development and utilizing AI in all of their products and services. Being an AI-first company does not necessarily mean that you build AI tools for others to use. Google is lagging behind in the market space for public AI tools, agree, but I am not convinced they are as far behind in AI development as you indicate.

TeMPOraL 3y ago

> Google (specifically their CEO) was saying since at least 2016 that "Google is an AI first company". (Whatever the hell that means). What it means is it's why so many things about Google experience suck so badly. Whether it's what he meant or not, the practical flip side of Google being "AI first company" is that they're "humans last" company. Or, it's a different way of saying they only do things that scale. Telemetry and automated decision making scale. Human review and customer support do not.

pocket_cheese 3y ago

I have lots of criticisms of Google, but let's not forget they have Gmail + workspaces,Google Domains, Android, Google Cloud, Google Fiber, Google Fi, The pixel, Nest, Maps, Youtube, Fitbit, and probably the browser 90% of people on here are using. Would losing search devastate them? Absolutely, but they're not exactly IBM levels of irrelevance without it.

abatilo 3y ago
Search is the majority of their revenue so that they can subsidize their other products. Devastation somehow doesn't feel like it properly captures how much it would hurt them to lose it.
predmijat 3y ago
Google Domains is sold to Sqaurespace and at least 3 of the things you mentioned are a drop in the ocean.

Manheim 3y ago

Well, it could mean that they are focused on AI development and utilizing AI in all of their products and services. Being an AI-first company does not necessarily mean that you build AI tools for others to use. Google is lagging behind in the market space for public AI tools, agree, but I am not convinced they are as far behind in AI development as you indicate.