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They already do. Any time you start talking about wanting to do exploratory analysis for preventative reasons they’ll react in some way like “Hurr hurr whoa the

by xwdv 3y ago

They already do. Any time you start talking about wanting to do exploratory analysis for preventative reasons they’ll react in some way like “Hurr hurr whoa there buddy, you don’t want to get yourself anxious over benign stuff! This will do more harm than good!”

lostlogin 3y ago
People Googling their symptoms and treatments undoubtedly does cause anxiety and correcting mistaken impressions does cost clinical time. There is a middle road here somewhere - we just have to find it, or accept the costs that come with having more tools.
- ekianjo 3y ago
  There is anxiety because information is locked away by companies and regulators. They do zero efforts to help the public understand anything.
  - JimtheCoder 3y ago
    "They do zero efforts to help the public understand anything." To be fair, with complex diseases, the experts don't even understand them fully... Trying to explain something super complex with incomplete knowledge to most humans, who often don't have even a basic understanding of how biological systems work, seems like a bad idea...
    - ekianjo 3y ago
      Just explain what we know and dont know. People will become a lot more charitable when you do the effort.
rincebrain 3y ago
Doctors are, in my experience, very good at justifying preventative checks they thought of and very poor at justifying ones you thought of. In both cases, they're correct - since no intervention is risk free, even if you have a 0% false positive rate in the sense of "I found a mass in your arm", for example, you might still have a worse outcome rate if the rate of "mass in your arm causes harm" is lower than "complications from removing mass in your arm". That's not to say that their suggestions are right and yours are wrong, just that they're right about the reasoning but tend to dismiss concerns that they didn't think of and justify ones they did, and we need a more complicated basis for justifying this than "I think".

by xwdv 3y ago

lostlogin 3y ago

People Googling their symptoms and treatments undoubtedly does cause anxiety and correcting mistaken impressions does cost clinical time. There is a middle road here somewhere - we just have to find it, or accept the costs that come with having more tools.

ekianjo 3y ago
There is anxiety because information is locked away by companies and regulators. They do zero efforts to help the public understand anything.
- JimtheCoder 3y ago
  "They do zero efforts to help the public understand anything." To be fair, with complex diseases, the experts don't even understand them fully... Trying to explain something super complex with incomplete knowledge to most humans, who often don't have even a basic understanding of how biological systems work, seems like a bad idea...
  - ekianjo 3y ago
    Just explain what we know and dont know. People will become a lot more charitable when you do the effort.

rincebrain 3y ago

Doctors are, in my experience, very good at justifying preventative checks they thought of and very poor at justifying ones you thought of. In both cases, they're correct - since no intervention is risk free, even if you have a 0% false positive rate in the sense of "I found a mass in your arm", for example, you might still have a worse outcome rate if the rate of "mass in your arm causes harm" is lower than "complications from removing mass in your arm". That's not to say that their suggestions are right and yours are wrong, just that they're right about the reasoning but tend to dismiss concerns that they didn't think of and justify ones they did, and we need a more complicated basis for justifying this than "I think".