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Out of curiosity and if you are happy to share, what is your 'personal stuff'?

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
As a counter reference, for my work I use it to code (for-4) and it has been between $70 and $200 per month depending on how heavily I use it
- syntaxing 3y ago
  GPT-4 is significantly more expensive so I can definitely see you spending that amount. For really complex stuff, I switch over the GPT-4 and it will cost me almost $3 a "question" (as in going from the beginning to solving it). Honestly worth it since it solves my problem but it adds up quick so I try to stick with 3.5 when I can.
  - blorenz 3y ago
    Can’t you get by with ChatGPT-4 for these personal assistant type questions? That’s what I do and my 20 a month goes a long way. I’d be interested to see if I am missing out on anything using GPT to is way in contrast to the API.
    - facia 3y ago
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    - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
      I use it with a tool that is wired into my terminal that changes my files for me [1]. That alone makes me several times more productive compared to copy pasting back and forth between the chat window. If the chat window makes me twice as productive the command line tool probably makes me 5x as productive. At that kind of output on a developer salary the $70-200 a month is absolute peanuts compared to what you get in return 1: https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider
      - blorenz 3y ago
        This tool looks splendid. Personally, it evokes in me the memories of MUDding back in the early 90s. What a concept that would be to MUD to build apps via LLM -- or even MUD to build the MUD in real-time outside of the OLC and scripting. That sounds like a passion project for me when I can find the time.
      - Jach 3y ago
        Is your code subject to code review? If so have you done anything to improve that bottleneck, or was it never an issue at previous productivity?
        SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
        It is subject to code review, but I typically spent much more time writing code than having it reviewed (I am very methodical and slow writing code)
    - syntaxing 3y ago
      I actually used to use ChatGPT but switched to the API once I had GPT-4 access. Mainly it’s because I simply didn’t use the $20 worth of the GPT-4 at the time. It was extremely slow and the question per hour limitation was annoying and stressful. I would always worry I would need it for something unexpected so I never used more than 15 questions at a time (but this has probably changed these couple months). In addition, the privacy implications are better for the API since the terms are better for how they handle your data. I also like how I can tie in GPT anywhere. I use the matrix bridge so you can give access to people like my parents who are not as tech literate to sign up and get used to chatgpt interface. I allow them to talk to it as a bot through WhatsApp bridge.
syntaxing 3y ago
I use it a lot for personal coding projects, grammar correction/sentence rewording, and translation (it works better than google translate for longer text). I explicitly call out personal stuff since my job provides an in-house front end that uses the GPT API (I'm actually not sure which version it is, but guessing from the response quality, its probably GPT-4). My work one has made me noticeably more productive. It helps me with a lot of the "boring" work that I procrastinate a lot on. It starts my momentum and allows me focus a lot on the "complex stuff". I'm not sure how much money I use since there is no limit at work but if I had to guess, its probably north of $100 a month on credit.
- manjoh 3y ago
  Can you talk about how you integrate gpt API at work and why not just use chatgpt 4?
  - syntaxing 3y ago
    The server is provided by my employer so I can’t go into the implementation detail. But overall, most companies provide access to the API endpoint instead of using chatGPT itself since OpenAI uses your results to train (hence why it’s free for 3.5). The API endpoint supposedly doesn’t use your data for training which is why I use the API endpoint for personal stuff as well.

As a counter reference, for my work I use it to code (for-4) and it has been between $70 and $200 per month depending on how heavily I use it

syntaxing 3y ago
GPT-4 is significantly more expensive so I can definitely see you spending that amount. For really complex stuff, I switch over the GPT-4 and it will cost me almost $3 a "question" (as in going from the beginning to solving it). Honestly worth it since it solves my problem but it adds up quick so I try to stick with 3.5 when I can.
- blorenz 3y ago
  Can’t you get by with ChatGPT-4 for these personal assistant type questions? That’s what I do and my 20 a month goes a long way. I’d be interested to see if I am missing out on anything using GPT to is way in contrast to the API.
  - facia 3y ago
    [dead]
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
    I use it with a tool that is wired into my terminal that changes my files for me [1]. That alone makes me several times more productive compared to copy pasting back and forth between the chat window. If the chat window makes me twice as productive the command line tool probably makes me 5x as productive. At that kind of output on a developer salary the $70-200 a month is absolute peanuts compared to what you get in return 1: https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider
    - blorenz 3y ago
      This tool looks splendid. Personally, it evokes in me the memories of MUDding back in the early 90s. What a concept that would be to MUD to build apps via LLM -- or even MUD to build the MUD in real-time outside of the OLC and scripting. That sounds like a passion project for me when I can find the time.
    - Jach 3y ago
      Is your code subject to code review? If so have you done anything to improve that bottleneck, or was it never an issue at previous productivity?
      - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
        It is subject to code review, but I typically spent much more time writing code than having it reviewed (I am very methodical and slow writing code)
  - syntaxing 3y ago
    I actually used to use ChatGPT but switched to the API once I had GPT-4 access. Mainly it’s because I simply didn’t use the $20 worth of the GPT-4 at the time. It was extremely slow and the question per hour limitation was annoying and stressful. I would always worry I would need it for something unexpected so I never used more than 15 questions at a time (but this has probably changed these couple months). In addition, the privacy implications are better for the API since the terms are better for how they handle your data. I also like how I can tie in GPT anywhere. I use the matrix bridge so you can give access to people like my parents who are not as tech literate to sign up and get used to chatgpt interface. I allow them to talk to it as a bot through WhatsApp bridge.

syntaxing 3y ago

I use it a lot for personal coding projects, grammar correction/sentence rewording, and translation (it works better than google translate for longer text). I explicitly call out personal stuff since my job provides an in-house front end that uses the GPT API (I'm actually not sure which version it is, but guessing from the response quality, its probably GPT-4). My work one has made me noticeably more productive. It helps me with a lot of the "boring" work that I procrastinate a lot on. It starts my momentum and allows me focus a lot on the "complex stuff". I'm not sure how much money I use since there is no limit at work but if I had to guess, its probably north of $100 a month on credit.

manjoh 3y ago
Can you talk about how you integrate gpt API at work and why not just use chatgpt 4?
- syntaxing 3y ago
  The server is provided by my employer so I can’t go into the implementation detail. But overall, most companies provide access to the API endpoint instead of using chatGPT itself since OpenAI uses your results to train (hence why it’s free for 3.5). The API endpoint supposedly doesn’t use your data for training which is why I use the API endpoint for personal stuff as well.