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Are you able to elaborate on some of the shade being thrown in that linked thread? There appears to be some politics around this, or determinate systems, or som
by mhio 3y ago
Are you able to elaborate on some of the shade being thrown in that linked thread? There appears to be some politics around this, or determinate systems, or something.
- unshavedyak 3y agoNot really, i don't follow it closely. I believe some others in this thread dive into it a bit. My (mostly assumed!) takeaway is that Flakes isn't perfect, and many existing users don't like that a very important part of Nix is being rushed. Conversely, many Flakes users think almost the exact opposite -- that Flakes has been taking too long and Nix is incomplete without it (i'm more in this camp). All around though i don't have the energy to partake in this holy war, so i mostly ignore it. I'm sure i am wrong on some important details, so please don't take what i say as more than it's worth.
- di4na 3y agoThe problems here are not exactly flakes going too slow or too fast. It is that the historical developer of nix, who was also behind flakes, moved to create a company called Determinate Systems. And this company keep pushing out products that are "ways to fix all kind of problems with nix and flakes". Except they are done in secret then announced, while the rest of the community is trying to actually make the underlying stuff just work. It is a bit like the guy built a half finished stuff, good enough for him, leave it in this state, then keep coming back with "solutions" that are not in nix themselves. And let everyone else clean his stuff. Ofc the other way to look at it is that they are the only one having results and really fixing things. But I am on the side of all the other maintainers that keep having to clean up the mess.