> they let it to go live on a farm where all big projects go to die: The Apache Foundation. There is another similar farm nearby named the Eclipse Foundation.

> they let it to go live on a farm where all big projects go to die: The Apache Foundation. There is another similar farm nearby named the Eclipse Foundation. Well, just like Apache, they have some projects which are very much alive; but, just as Oracle sent OpenOffice off to Apache's pastures, they similarly sent Hudson off to Eclipse's. Unlike OpenOffice, Hudson has already shuffled off to the great beyond; OpenOffice still clings to life, if barely.