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I ran several Qmail systems. Daemontools worked rather well. They had a habit of delivering email reliably. "Life with Qmail" was a very decent primer. I al

I ran several Qmail systems. Daemontools worked rather well. They had a habit of delivering email reliably. "Life with Qmail" was a very decent primer. I also ran several other mail systems at the same time (and still do). Exchange's smtpd is still a bit of a pain and I never put it on the internet directly. Nowadays (last 15 years) I use Exim for a MTA/proxy - at home and at work.

GauntletWizard 3y ago
I feel like Pottering owes a lot to daemontools; A lot of the good ideas of Systemd come from there, as does the sense of smug superiority.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  Daemontools is smug, Systemd declares itself triumphantly the Emperor and Lord Protector of our light cone!
- Karrot_Kream 3y ago
  > as does the sense of smug superiority. Ouch I never made this connection but now that you bring it up, I can't unsee it.
Karrot_Kream 3y ago
Any reason you prefer Exim? I've enjoyed running Postfix forever and though the config is a bit baroque, have had no issues with running it in my somewhat weird setup.
- gerdesj 3y ago
  Exim has a rather mad ACL etc system which is what I need. Postfix is absolutely ideal for receive mail, pass to AV/spam checker, pass it on (or not). Exim is hugely configurable. If you use it on Debian/Ubuntu and you have somewhat complex needs then ditch the split config thingie and simply create your own /etc/exim4/exim4.conf from scratch. You can test a config with "exim -bhc <ip.add.re.ss>" to simulate a SMTP session from <ip.add.re.ss>, before you restart Exim to make the config active. So: helo me mail from: name@example.co.uk rcpt to: name@another.example.co.uk data etc etc At each stage you get a debug output of what would happen. You have to be a bit careful with this because a new Exim daemon will use the new config. For small changes do it "inline", for major changes, copy the conf to a new name and specify it with -C and test until it works. There are a lot of options. Documentation is complete for Exim. If you find a flaw then Jeremy and co will fix it - the Exim devs are very, very driven, for want of a better word. You will get short shrift on the mailing lists if you obviously haven't tried to do any research but you will soon get some extremely knowledgable help if you show willing. No Disqus etc - just old school mailing lists and that is the way it should be. The big boys are destroying SMTP gradually but it can and does still work, if you are careful. EDIT: <formatting>

GauntletWizard 3y ago

I feel like Pottering owes a lot to daemontools; A lot of the good ideas of Systemd come from there, as does the sense of smug superiority.

actionfromafar 3y ago
Daemontools is smug, Systemd declares itself triumphantly the Emperor and Lord Protector of our light cone!
Karrot_Kream 3y ago
> as does the sense of smug superiority. Ouch I never made this connection but now that you bring it up, I can't unsee it.

Karrot_Kream 3y ago

Any reason you prefer Exim? I've enjoyed running Postfix forever and though the config is a bit baroque, have had no issues with running it in my somewhat weird setup.

gerdesj 3y ago
Exim has a rather mad ACL etc system which is what I need. Postfix is absolutely ideal for receive mail, pass to AV/spam checker, pass it on (or not). Exim is hugely configurable. If you use it on Debian/Ubuntu and you have somewhat complex needs then ditch the split config thingie and simply create your own /etc/exim4/exim4.conf from scratch. You can test a config with "exim -bhc <ip.add.re.ss>" to simulate a SMTP session from <ip.add.re.ss>, before you restart Exim to make the config active. So: helo me mail from: name@example.co.uk rcpt to: name@another.example.co.uk data etc etc At each stage you get a debug output of what would happen. You have to be a bit careful with this because a new Exim daemon will use the new config. For small changes do it "inline", for major changes, copy the conf to a new name and specify it with -C and test until it works. There are a lot of options. Documentation is complete for Exim. If you find a flaw then Jeremy and co will fix it - the Exim devs are very, very driven, for want of a better word. You will get short shrift on the mailing lists if you obviously haven't tried to do any research but you will soon get some extremely knowledgable help if you show willing. No Disqus etc - just old school mailing lists and that is the way it should be. The big boys are destroying SMTP gradually but it can and does still work, if you are careful. EDIT: <formatting>