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Next time my wife calls me when she's crashed her bicycle and needs picking up I'll remind her to schedule it better.

by bbarn 3y ago

uoaei 3y ago
If she needs medical attention, she should call an ambulance. If she doesn't, it's not urgent. If she has somewhere to be and didn't plan for a flat or other mechanical failure (as a result of a crash or something else), that process (schedule) was poorly designed.
- jmye 3y ago
  This is a shockingly asocial response. I may not need an ambulance, but I may appreciate a ride home. I may get a flat and be unable to fix it, ten miles from home. I may go for a run and need a ride after I tweak my knee. My kid may get norovirus at school and need to be picked up and taken to the doctor. Trying to treat your life like a Jira ticket is slightly absurd. Pretending other people did something wrong because they don’t is ridiculous.
  - uoaei 3y ago
    Appreciating something doesn't make it urgent. Tweaking a knee requires somewhere to sit -- again, not urgent, because the ground is always an option. Kid got sick, unless they need medical attention beyond what the school nurse can provide, they can sit for a couple hours and be fine while they eat some snacks and re-up on OTC meds. Honestly it seems like you're really stretching the meaning of "urgent" for online brownie points. People responding here really are trying to redefine "urgent" as a matter of personal preference or inconvenience. These blatant attempts are frankly shameful for a discussion community of this caliber. What makes things urgent is loss of life or limb or some other kind of serious trauma. Words mean things! It's perfectly fine to want things and to be a little sad when bad things happen, but bad feelings do not urgency make.
    - maltalex 3y ago
      Urgent means something that requires immediate attention. It doesn't have to be a full blown emergency. Neither family members nor friends have to be at an immediate risk of losing a limb before asking you for immediate attention.
      - uoaei 3y ago
        Even with your definition of "requires immediate attention" none of the examples you've given really apply... Sure they can ask, and if your intention is to be available on the phone the moment they ask then your examples are irrelevant to the entire thread, which is about not needing your phone except for things you deem of primary importance.
        maltalex 3y ago
        It's not my definition. It's literally the definition of the word. > Sure they can ask, and if your intention is to be available on the phone the moment they ask then your examples are irrelevant to the entire thread, which is about not needing your phone except for things you deem of primary importance. The whole point I'm making (and please note that not all of the above replies are mine) is that everyone's lives contains unexpected elements which can become urgent under the right circumstances. I can't imagine a life in which a call from a friend, family member, the authorities, or even a coworker can NEVER be urgent.
        uoaei 3y ago
        Of course it can be, but then there should be ways (a "process", if you will) for them to reach you ("designed" to be responsive, so to speak). If you can't be reached when you want to be reached, your process is poorly designed. At this point I can't feel otherwise but that you're putting words in my mouth to beat a straw man. I never advocated for anything even remotely related to a sentiment like "keep your phone off at all times and fuck everyone who asks for your help". If they're someone whom you would want to be available for, you should probably design a process that makes that possible. What I am saying is, unless you're licensed as rescue personnel or something similar, that call probably isn't as "urgent" as you seem to want it to be, regardless of the panic or anxiety which might exist.
- bbarn 3y ago
  Not really sure if you're just trolling here or not. I picked this specific example because it has happened more than once. There are plenty of ways my wife, who's actually tough as nails, has needed a ride home when crashing. Should she call an ambulance because she bent her wheel enough it can't be ridden, or should she be expected to carry a truing stand? Also, many things aren't emergencies until they are. Having to walk home 20 miles in the desert when you can't push your bike isn't an emergency, until you've been out in exposure for 5 hours. The plan here is quite literally, everything is fine unless something happens, then my husband knows where I am and will come get me.
  - uoaei 3y ago
    Ok, then your process involves being available on the phone and is irrelevant to this entire thread. Then why did you bring it up?

Next time my wife calls me when she's crashed her bicycle and needs picking up I'll remind her to schedule it better.

by bbarn 3y ago

Next time my wife calls me when she's crashed her bicycle and needs picking up I'll remind her to schedule it better.

If she needs medical attention, she should call an ambulance. If she doesn't, it's not urgent. If she has somewhere to be and didn't plan for a flat or other mechanical failure (as a result of a crash or something else), that process (schedule) was poorly designed.

jmye 3y ago
This is a shockingly asocial response. I may not need an ambulance, but I may appreciate a ride home. I may get a flat and be unable to fix it, ten miles from home. I may go for a run and need a ride after I tweak my knee. My kid may get norovirus at school and need to be picked up and taken to the doctor. Trying to treat your life like a Jira ticket is slightly absurd. Pretending other people did something wrong because they don’t is ridiculous.
- uoaei 3y ago
  Appreciating something doesn't make it urgent. Tweaking a knee requires somewhere to sit -- again, not urgent, because the ground is always an option. Kid got sick, unless they need medical attention beyond what the school nurse can provide, they can sit for a couple hours and be fine while they eat some snacks and re-up on OTC meds. Honestly it seems like you're really stretching the meaning of "urgent" for online brownie points. People responding here really are trying to redefine "urgent" as a matter of personal preference or inconvenience. These blatant attempts are frankly shameful for a discussion community of this caliber. What makes things urgent is loss of life or limb or some other kind of serious trauma. Words mean things! It's perfectly fine to want things and to be a little sad when bad things happen, but bad feelings do not urgency make.
  - maltalex 3y ago
    Urgent means something that requires immediate attention. It doesn't have to be a full blown emergency. Neither family members nor friends have to be at an immediate risk of losing a limb before asking you for immediate attention.
    - uoaei 3y ago
      Even with your definition of "requires immediate attention" none of the examples you've given really apply... Sure they can ask, and if your intention is to be available on the phone the moment they ask then your examples are irrelevant to the entire thread, which is about not needing your phone except for things you deem of primary importance.
      - maltalex 3y ago
        It's not my definition. It's literally the definition of the word. > Sure they can ask, and if your intention is to be available on the phone the moment they ask then your examples are irrelevant to the entire thread, which is about not needing your phone except for things you deem of primary importance. The whole point I'm making (and please note that not all of the above replies are mine) is that everyone's lives contains unexpected elements which can become urgent under the right circumstances. I can't imagine a life in which a call from a friend, family member, the authorities, or even a coworker can NEVER be urgent.
        uoaei 3y ago
        Of course it can be, but then there should be ways (a "process", if you will) for them to reach you ("designed" to be responsive, so to speak). If you can't be reached when you want to be reached, your process is poorly designed. At this point I can't feel otherwise but that you're putting words in my mouth to beat a straw man. I never advocated for anything even remotely related to a sentiment like "keep your phone off at all times and fuck everyone who asks for your help". If they're someone whom you would want to be available for, you should probably design a process that makes that possible. What I am saying is, unless you're licensed as rescue personnel or something similar, that call probably isn't as "urgent" as you seem to want it to be, regardless of the panic or anxiety which might exist.
bbarn 3y ago
Not really sure if you're just trolling here or not. I picked this specific example because it has happened more than once. There are plenty of ways my wife, who's actually tough as nails, has needed a ride home when crashing. Should she call an ambulance because she bent her wheel enough it can't be ridden, or should she be expected to carry a truing stand? Also, many things aren't emergencies until they are. Having to walk home 20 miles in the desert when you can't push your bike isn't an emergency, until you've been out in exposure for 5 hours. The plan here is quite literally, everything is fine unless something happens, then my husband knows where I am and will come get me.
- uoaei 3y ago
  Ok, then your process involves being available on the phone and is irrelevant to this entire thread. Then why did you bring it up?