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> No. Nothing is an urgency. Except some things are.

by maltalex 3y ago

uoaei 3y ago
If they're that urgent, your process is poorly designed.
- r0b1n 3y ago
  Life is poorly designed. Kid had an accident, gotta go to the hospital? Of course that call is urgent. Even at work, there are things that really are urgent. But those shouldn't occur often, otherwise you would be right, poorly designed process.
  - uoaei 3y ago
    So you call the ambulance...?
    - r0b1n 3y ago
      What do you mean? Yes, of course the ambulance might take the kid to the hospital. And then I'll follow the ambulance in my car to be there for my kid in the hospital. Or the kid has already been brought to the hospital. In any case, as a parent, I need to get that urgent call informing me about it, and I need to be there asap.
- bbarn 3y ago
  Next time my wife calls me when she's crashed her bicycle and needs picking up I'll remind her to schedule it better.
  - uoaei 3y ago
    If she needs medical attention, she should call an ambulance. If she doesn't, it's not urgent. If she has somewhere to be and didn't plan for a flat or other mechanical failure (as a result of a crash or something else), that process (schedule) was poorly designed.
    - jmye 3y ago
      This is a shockingly asocial response. I may not need an ambulance, but I may appreciate a ride home. I may get a flat and be unable to fix it, ten miles from home. I may go for a run and need a ride after I tweak my knee. My kid may get norovirus at school and need to be picked up and taken to the doctor. Trying to treat your life like a Jira ticket is slightly absurd. Pretending other people did something wrong because they don’t is ridiculous.
      - uoaei 3y ago
        Appreciating something doesn't make it urgent. Tweaking a knee requires somewhere to sit -- again, not urgent, because the ground is always an option. Kid got sick, unless they need medical attention beyond what the school nurse can provide, they can sit for a couple hours and be fine while they eat some snacks and re-up on OTC meds. Honestly it seems like you're really stretching the meaning of "urgent" for online brownie points. People responding here really are trying to redefine "urgent" as a matter of personal preference or inconvenience. These blatant attempts are frankly shameful for a discussion community of this caliber. What makes things urgent is loss of life or limb or some other kind of serious trauma. Words mean things! It's perfectly fine to want things and to be a little sad when bad things happen, but bad feelings do not urgency make.
        maltalex 3y ago
        Urgent means something that requires immediate attention. It doesn't have to be a full blown emergency. Neither family members nor friends have to be at an immediate risk of losing a limb before asking you for immediate attention.
        uoaei 3y ago
        Even with your definition of "requires immediate attention" none of the examples you've given really apply... Sure they can ask, and if your intention is to be available on the phone the moment they ask then your examples are irrelevant to the entire thread, which is about not needing your phone except for things you deem of primary importance.
- happytoexplain 3y ago
  I'm not usually on the "HN users can't think outside of tech" train, but holy crap.
  - uoaei 3y ago
    Nothing like a little pigeon-holing to justify quick and dirty judgments, eh?
unstatusthequo 3y ago
But when everything is urgent, nothing is.
- lucb1e 3y ago
  It's also not like I message my boss before walking to his office, that doesn't make every time someone walks in equally urgent. Sometimes it'll be me asking about lunch, sometimes it'll be the firefighters. I agree a priority button would be nice when calling someone, to be able to differentiate, but how often do you get interrupted by a phone call during something that you didn't want to be interrupted? For me it's never so uninterruptable that declining the call was an issue; I decline calls maybe twice per year (on a total of maybe a dozen unexpected incoming calls altogether). I'd prefer if it's okay to just pick up a phone and see if someone is reachable.
- yreg 3y ago
  That's an entirely different statement.

> No. Nothing is an urgency. Except some things are.

uoaei 3y ago

If they're that urgent, your process is poorly designed.

r0b1n 3y ago
Life is poorly designed. Kid had an accident, gotta go to the hospital? Of course that call is urgent. Even at work, there are things that really are urgent. But those shouldn't occur often, otherwise you would be right, poorly designed process.
- uoaei 3y ago
  So you call the ambulance...?
  - r0b1n 3y ago
    What do you mean? Yes, of course the ambulance might take the kid to the hospital. And then I'll follow the ambulance in my car to be there for my kid in the hospital. Or the kid has already been brought to the hospital. In any case, as a parent, I need to get that urgent call informing me about it, and I need to be there asap.
bbarn 3y ago
Next time my wife calls me when she's crashed her bicycle and needs picking up I'll remind her to schedule it better.
- uoaei 3y ago
  If she needs medical attention, she should call an ambulance. If she doesn't, it's not urgent. If she has somewhere to be and didn't plan for a flat or other mechanical failure (as a result of a crash or something else), that process (schedule) was poorly designed.
  - jmye 3y ago
    This is a shockingly asocial response. I may not need an ambulance, but I may appreciate a ride home. I may get a flat and be unable to fix it, ten miles from home. I may go for a run and need a ride after I tweak my knee. My kid may get norovirus at school and need to be picked up and taken to the doctor. Trying to treat your life like a Jira ticket is slightly absurd. Pretending other people did something wrong because they don’t is ridiculous.
    - uoaei 3y ago
      Appreciating something doesn't make it urgent. Tweaking a knee requires somewhere to sit -- again, not urgent, because the ground is always an option. Kid got sick, unless they need medical attention beyond what the school nurse can provide, they can sit for a couple hours and be fine while they eat some snacks and re-up on OTC meds. Honestly it seems like you're really stretching the meaning of "urgent" for online brownie points. People responding here really are trying to redefine "urgent" as a matter of personal preference or inconvenience. These blatant attempts are frankly shameful for a discussion community of this caliber. What makes things urgent is loss of life or limb or some other kind of serious trauma. Words mean things! It's perfectly fine to want things and to be a little sad when bad things happen, but bad feelings do not urgency make.
      - maltalex 3y ago
        Urgent means something that requires immediate attention. It doesn't have to be a full blown emergency. Neither family members nor friends have to be at an immediate risk of losing a limb before asking you for immediate attention.
        uoaei 3y ago
        Even with your definition of "requires immediate attention" none of the examples you've given really apply... Sure they can ask, and if your intention is to be available on the phone the moment they ask then your examples are irrelevant to the entire thread, which is about not needing your phone except for things you deem of primary importance.
happytoexplain 3y ago
I'm not usually on the "HN users can't think outside of tech" train, but holy crap.
- uoaei 3y ago
  Nothing like a little pigeon-holing to justify quick and dirty judgments, eh?

unstatusthequo 3y ago

But when everything is urgent, nothing is.

lucb1e 3y ago
It's also not like I message my boss before walking to his office, that doesn't make every time someone walks in equally urgent. Sometimes it'll be me asking about lunch, sometimes it'll be the firefighters. I agree a priority button would be nice when calling someone, to be able to differentiate, but how often do you get interrupted by a phone call during something that you didn't want to be interrupted? For me it's never so uninterruptable that declining the call was an issue; I decline calls maybe twice per year (on a total of maybe a dozen unexpected incoming calls altogether). I'd prefer if it's okay to just pick up a phone and see if someone is reachable.
yreg 3y ago
That's an entirely different statement.