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I've never seen a popular MUP (without delineated lanes for modes) in the US that is anything more than a compromise between each of the modes. I live along a f

I've never seen a popular MUP (without delineated lanes for modes) in the US that is anything more than a compromise between each of the modes. I live along a fantastic, popular MUP that turns into an on-street protected bike lane. During evening commute hours the on-street protected bike lane becomes filled with dog walkers and joggers who don't want to use the sidewalk. The US culturally treats public spaces too poorly to be respectful on an MUP; we need to offer more safe space to alternate transportation modes on streets instead of dedicating all that space for cars.

piva00 3y ago
What is a MUP? Not familiar at all with that acronym, believe others might have the same issue as me.
- thorncorona 3y ago
  I'd guess multi-use path?
  - Karrot_Kream 3y ago
    ^ Yup multi-use path
- mikestew 3y ago
  multi-use path, full of walkers, runners, and cyclists. Contrast to "bike path", where the expectation is that it is used by human-powered, wheeled vehicles moving at 10-20mph...and not used by dog walkers.
danw1979 3y ago
I’m staying in a French seaside town at the moment, where a new MUP has been installed from sea front back through the town within the last year. It’s fucking crazy dangerous. I’ve had to yank my 6yo out of the way of some asshole riders a couple of times this week. It’s taken the place of the footpath that was here before… I’m all in favour of new cycling infrastructure, but I reckon we need to go full Netherlands and put it on both sides of the road and have directional lanes, leaving the footpaths intact.
- Karrot_Kream 3y ago
  Guess it's not just an American thing then. I agree, we need more space devoted to separating out modes. Group them by speeds. "Pedestrian" paths would be 0-6 mph, "biking" paths from 10-20 mph, and high speed vehicles 20+ mph. A beginner cyclist just learning can go on the pedestrian path, an electric moped user that wants to go fast can go in the high speed vehicle lane.

piva00 3y ago

What is a MUP? Not familiar at all with that acronym, believe others might have the same issue as me.

thorncorona 3y ago
I'd guess multi-use path?
- Karrot_Kream 3y ago
  ^ Yup multi-use path
mikestew 3y ago
multi-use path, full of walkers, runners, and cyclists. Contrast to "bike path", where the expectation is that it is used by human-powered, wheeled vehicles moving at 10-20mph...and not used by dog walkers.

danw1979 3y ago

I’m staying in a French seaside town at the moment, where a new MUP has been installed from sea front back through the town within the last year. It’s fucking crazy dangerous. I’ve had to yank my 6yo out of the way of some asshole riders a couple of times this week. It’s taken the place of the footpath that was here before… I’m all in favour of new cycling infrastructure, but I reckon we need to go full Netherlands and put it on both sides of the road and have directional lanes, leaving the footpaths intact.

Karrot_Kream 3y ago
Guess it's not just an American thing then. I agree, we need more space devoted to separating out modes. Group them by speeds. "Pedestrian" paths would be 0-6 mph, "biking" paths from 10-20 mph, and high speed vehicles 20+ mph. A beginner cyclist just learning can go on the pedestrian path, an electric moped user that wants to go fast can go in the high speed vehicle lane.