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> they're ok for domestic travel No ID is required for domestic travel, even at big airports. Just be pleasant and explain that you misplaced it. I have mispla

> they're ok for domestic travel No ID is required for domestic travel, even at big airports. Just be pleasant and explain that you misplaced it. I have misplaced ID several times, and only once I signed a piece of paper which roughly said that I am I because I say so.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Heh heh heh, I take it that you've never been through a Border Patrol checkpoint which wasn't at the border. They checkpoint all the thoroughfares near Mexico and I reminded my Spanish fiancée to carry her passport as we traveled domestically, and I was completely correct.
- landemva 3y ago
  What were you correct about? Non-Americans are in the country by permission, not by right. Americans who consent are on their knees.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Do you really think CBP is in the business of waving through Hispanic-looking-and-sounding people with no ID for whatever reason? I'm not saying they'd get deported, but I wouldn't be surprised at detention/questioning for a while. Law enforcement usually has ways of checking ID by radio/computer, so it may be a short stop, but still.
FireBeyond 3y ago
For now. Though that can has been kicked down the road, the latest drop dead date is May 7, 2025: > On May 7, 2025, U.S. travelers must be REAL ID compliant to board domestic flights and access certain federal facilities. Source: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id https://www.dhs.gov/real-id
- ghaff 3y ago
  I was utterly shocked 5 or 6 years ago when I somehow managed to lose my driver's license between my curbside dropoff and the airport door. To this day no idea what happened. Normally, I'd have had my backup travel ID/credit card/cash kit but, hey, this was a last minute couple night trip so I went light. Figured that was that. But as it turned out really wasn't a major issue much to my surprise. What was an issue was getting checked into the hotel I had been able to find for the event near the airport (Travelodge). I even had a photo company security badge, credit cards, etc. Eventually they let me, with great reluctance pay cash, which fortunately fleabag was cheap enough that my withdrawal limit covered. Thought I was going to have to call SV friends and find somewhere to sleep--or at least pay some ridiculous amount for the last room at some hotel where I belonged to their loyalty program. But TSA was actually not a real issue.
- landemva 3y ago
  Thanks for that link to a bureaucrat website. Where is the law? Unconstitutional laws and regulations are on the books until someone is harmed and challenges it in court.
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    It's not a law, it's a DHS policy. Said DHS policy is not infringing on your right to travel. You can still hire a private jet or fly yourself. The airline companies will just simply refuse to fly you, which they have the right to do.
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      > It's not a law, it's a DHS policy. What? It's the REAL ID Act of 2005. 8 USC 1101. It's absolutely a law. (Also 49 USC 30301).
      - landemva 3y ago
        Apparently not being enforced because I can fly without ID. Until it is enforced, there is no harm so it can't be challenged. A friend flies with no ID and a court ankle bracelet.
nottorp 3y ago
So from the outside, it basically looks like this identity theft problem is self inflicted.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

Heh heh heh, I take it that you've never been through a Border Patrol checkpoint which wasn't at the border. They checkpoint all the thoroughfares near Mexico and I reminded my Spanish fiancée to carry her passport as we traveled domestically, and I was completely correct.

landemva 3y ago
What were you correct about? Non-Americans are in the country by permission, not by right. Americans who consent are on their knees.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Do you really think CBP is in the business of waving through Hispanic-looking-and-sounding people with no ID for whatever reason? I'm not saying they'd get deported, but I wouldn't be surprised at detention/questioning for a while. Law enforcement usually has ways of checking ID by radio/computer, so it may be a short stop, but still.

FireBeyond 3y ago

For now. Though that can has been kicked down the road, the latest drop dead date is May 7, 2025: > On May 7, 2025, U.S. travelers must be REAL ID compliant to board domestic flights and access certain federal facilities. Source: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

ghaff 3y ago
I was utterly shocked 5 or 6 years ago when I somehow managed to lose my driver's license between my curbside dropoff and the airport door. To this day no idea what happened. Normally, I'd have had my backup travel ID/credit card/cash kit but, hey, this was a last minute couple night trip so I went light. Figured that was that. But as it turned out really wasn't a major issue much to my surprise. What was an issue was getting checked into the hotel I had been able to find for the event near the airport (Travelodge). I even had a photo company security badge, credit cards, etc. Eventually they let me, with great reluctance pay cash, which fortunately fleabag was cheap enough that my withdrawal limit covered. Thought I was going to have to call SV friends and find somewhere to sleep--or at least pay some ridiculous amount for the last room at some hotel where I belonged to their loyalty program. But TSA was actually not a real issue.
landemva 3y ago
Thanks for that link to a bureaucrat website. Where is the law? Unconstitutional laws and regulations are on the books until someone is harmed and challenges it in court.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  It's not a law, it's a DHS policy. Said DHS policy is not infringing on your right to travel. You can still hire a private jet or fly yourself. The airline companies will just simply refuse to fly you, which they have the right to do.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    > It's not a law, it's a DHS policy. What? It's the REAL ID Act of 2005. 8 USC 1101. It's absolutely a law. (Also 49 USC 30301).
    - landemva 3y ago
      Apparently not being enforced because I can fly without ID. Until it is enforced, there is no harm so it can't be challenged. A friend flies with no ID and a court ankle bracelet.

nottorp 3y ago

So from the outside, it basically looks like this identity theft problem is self inflicted.