> I feel like this anti car sentiment comes from people who already don't have access to a car and have already molded their lives around public transportation

> I feel like this anti car sentiment comes from people who already don't have access to a car and have already molded their lives around public transportation and of course then it is easy to say we should get rid of cars. Let's start with this, it's kind of obvious. "Cars are evil but I have two" would likely cause severe cognitive dissonance. Choosing to live carless is going to shape your life. It restricts where you can live, what jobs you can accept, your hobbies, family planning etc. > What if I need a car for commuting? Then you get a car for commuting, if you have to haul a lot of gear, can't move closer to your work, or choose another work that's accessible without a car. > Is it really reasonable to ask me to start using public transportation and completely revolve my life around a their schedule? Ideally you'd get public transit that runs often enough that you don't bother checking the schedule before heading for the stop, it'll be a couple of minutes of wait at worst. If you need to go somewhere off hours you accept the longer wait or the occasional taxi fare as a cost of not owning a car. That will rule out living anywhere that doesn't have the population density to support it, or is otherwise too car-centric. > Meaning that if I don't pay extra to nab one of the spaces (+ maintenance fees and whatnot) there wouldn't be a place for my car If there's no parking lot expanse, parking needs to be placed underground or within buildings, unless a lot more people are willing to go carless. It's going to be expensive, and someone has to pay for it. As long as it's not you, right? > there would only be tiny expensive grocery store as my only walkable shopping place This sucks. It's the kind of place you'd immediately rule out if you don't have a car. This is partly poor city planning, and partly a chicken-and-egg problem. Zoning for those apartments should take into account that there is enough space reserved for services within a walking distance. But if everyone just takes a car to the nearest highway hypermarket, there's no point for anyone to bring the services closer. Btw. we get our groceries delivered weekly since covid, I'm not looking to go back to a supermarket that's intentionally designed to waste my time walking past every single product to get what I need. Disclaimer: not a "fuck cars" extremist, I just don't like driving very much, cars are expensive to own and operate where I live, a hassle to own and maintain in general, and inconvenient as a mobility solution in my immediate surroundings. So I've decided to try to hold out as long as I can (~20 years of adult life so far).