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> Why does having no driver suddenly enable this? No-driver will make it more economical eventually because: 1. There is no hourly wage to pay a driver. 2. T
by quickthrower2 3y ago
> Why does having no driver suddenly enable this?
No-driver will make it more economical eventually because:
1. There is no hourly wage to pay a driver.
2. The car can be utilized 24/7 (or most likely 16/7 based on demand, but much better than 8/5 of a typical shift driver).
> What is it about having no driver that suddenly makes cars green, free up space on the road, etc?
A confluence of things: electric cars, the cheaper rides, the critical mass of users so that algorithms can find ways for people to share.
Remember if I am using a bus now, and this is offering me a 30 minute journey but (oof!) sharing with other people instead of 1 hour on a bus, this is a good switch.
> Why would someone who owns a car now, want to wait around for a driverless taxi to pick them up?
The reason is posted to you several times each year: "Car service" "Registration Fee" "Compulsory Check" "Your Toll Invoice" "Third Party Insurance" "Comprehensive Insurance" "Speeding Ticket" "Parking Ticket" and so on. And that assumes you don't crash (on in my case, hit/run done on your parked car) and have to deal with that hell.
Selling your car, getting $X,000 and being free of all that is a relief.
> If you can work for an hour while your car drives you to the office, and you don't have to stress or worry about the traffic, why would you even bother with anything else?
Depends. Replace car with helicopter and the same applies. Not everyone wants to pay for a helicopter. Not everyone will want to pay for their own car when you can get it on demand. Say it costs $25 a day to own your own car and be taken, $10 a day for your own uber-like and $5 a day if you share. A lot of people will go for the savings. Even more so if cities add single-person taxes on cars to ease congestion.
- taurath 3y agoThese efficiencies could be getting born out by the existing ride share apps but the promised efficiencies haven’t come to fruition at all yet. All subscription services like this have had high promises of cheaper and more economical service but they struggle to stay on par with legacy things they replace. Streaming services are rapidly approaching cable. Uber and Lyft are often more expensive than a yellow cab. There will be a very, very long time before a $80,000 self driving car and all the technology and services to make it self driving and service it automatically can undersell a driver making $35/hr after expenses in a $10,000 car that she owns, or a driver for a fleet making $25/hr.
- cjalmeida 3y agoA fleet driver making $25/h already costs more than $80K per year, at lower utilization and less flexibility.
- taurath 3y agoI think you’re missing my point - I don’t think it’s going to be cheap, or even economical compared to a cheap self owned vehicle, any time soon. I’m predicting it won’t be cheaper than Uber or Lyft until 3rd or 4th generations, especially when they try to earn a profit.
- philipwhiuk 3y ago> (or most likely 16/7 based on demand, but much better than 8/5 of a typical shift driver). Or more practically 4/5 plus a small amount outside that.
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