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You mean the disaster that killed between 0 (from radiation) and 2000 (from the evacuation) people? Compared do the literal millions that die every year from fo

You mean the disaster that killed between 0 (from radiation) and 2000 (from the evacuation) people? Compared do the literal millions that die every year from fossil fuel pollution? It would take about 10x the amount of nuclear power plants that we currently have for global energy to be totally nuclear. If we therefore 10x every single nuclear reactor disaster from the past 70 years (~ how long since the first production plant came on line in the USSR), global deaths would be between between 80,000 and 40,000,000 (using the implausibly high Greenpeace estimate of Chernobyl associated deaths). I think that all of those estimates are implausibly high, but even if we just take the 40,000,000 number, the most ridiculously, obviously wrong number, the estimated deaths every year from fossil fuel pollution (not climate change...direct particulate matter air pollution) is between 2 and 8 million every year. So go ahead, tell me again how we can't afford to relax safety standards on nuclear power.

lamontcg 3y ago
Zero deaths is debatable, and it is only possible due to a trillion dollar cleanup cost.
- endominus 3y ago
  Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_disaster_cleanup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_disaster_cleanup, "In 2016, Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry estimated the total cost of dealing with the Fukushima disaster at ¥21.5 trillion (US$187 billion)" (with breakdown following). Hyperbole does not serve to convince intelligent people of your point, much less your objectivity in the matter.
  - lamontcg 3y ago
    ASME estimated closer to US$500b: https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/memagazineselect/article-abstract/134/09/46/380240/Forging-a-New-Nuclear-Safety-Construct https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/memagazineselect/arti... JCER estimated from US$470b to US$660b https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/clearing-the-radioactive-rubble-heap-that-was-fukushima-daiichi-7-years-on/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/clearing-the-radi... The official govt estimates have risen from $50b to $100b to $200b and are probably too low.
    - MagnumOpus 3y ago
      ASME estimated more, right after the disaster, and they were proven wrong. Actual paid-out amounts after a decade were Y12.1tn - less than $90bn.
      - bamboozled 3y ago
        Of course because it’s a political issue and japan is extremely conservative you won’t really know the exact figures.
- MagnumOpus 3y ago
  The trillion dollar cleanup was necessary because of the tsunami which killed 20,000 or more people. The Fukushima 1&3 hydrogen explosion didn't flatten half of the Japanese Pacific seaboard, the tsunami did.
bamboozled 3y ago
But you bought fossil fuels into it. I didn’t. I love how people just armchair from across the pacific that the nuclear incident was no big deal, don’t worry about it…I mean it didn’t even cost much ? Lol

lamontcg 3y ago

Zero deaths is debatable, and it is only possible due to a trillion dollar cleanup cost.

endominus 3y ago
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_disaster_cleanup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_disaster_cleanup, "In 2016, Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry estimated the total cost of dealing with the Fukushima disaster at ¥21.5 trillion (US$187 billion)" (with breakdown following). Hyperbole does not serve to convince intelligent people of your point, much less your objectivity in the matter.
- lamontcg 3y ago
  ASME estimated closer to US$500b: https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/memagazineselect/article-abstract/134/09/46/380240/Forging-a-New-Nuclear-Safety-Construct https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/memagazineselect/arti... JCER estimated from US$470b to US$660b https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/clearing-the-radioactive-rubble-heap-that-was-fukushima-daiichi-7-years-on/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/clearing-the-radi... The official govt estimates have risen from $50b to $100b to $200b and are probably too low.
  - MagnumOpus 3y ago
    ASME estimated more, right after the disaster, and they were proven wrong. Actual paid-out amounts after a decade were Y12.1tn - less than $90bn.
    - bamboozled 3y ago
      Of course because it’s a political issue and japan is extremely conservative you won’t really know the exact figures.
MagnumOpus 3y ago
The trillion dollar cleanup was necessary because of the tsunami which killed 20,000 or more people. The Fukushima 1&3 hydrogen explosion didn't flatten half of the Japanese Pacific seaboard, the tsunami did.

bamboozled 3y ago

But you bought fossil fuels into it. I didn’t. I love how people just armchair from across the pacific that the nuclear incident was no big deal, don’t worry about it…I mean it didn’t even cost much ? Lol