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Sure yet a human driver is not a device that can be hacked and then used as a weapon or weapons.

bastawhiz 3y ago
Yeah it's a good thing that cities aren't filled with retail locations that sell liquids that, if ingested, turn humans into bad drivers that think they're great drivers. And it's a good thing that those hypothetical liquids don't form debilitating addictions that make the humans want them more.
- paul7986 3y ago
  hmmm your analogy doesn't totally fit and you might have drank too much of the AI tech bro kool aid ;-) These cars can be hacked as used as weapons ... for terrorist attacks. As well malfunction and lock you in driving into the bay or off a cliff or etc. Open to your rebuttal ;-)
  - lucubratory 3y ago
    Rebuttal to what? You accused them of being a tech cultist and then started talking nonsense about terrorist attacks that are already performed with cars and trucks and would probably be harder to do in a self-driving world, as well as fear-mongering about "hacking" when all modern cars can be hacked by ATPs anyway, and they're the only ones who'd be capable of pulling off something like what you're talking about. Nonsense doesn't require a rebuttal and neither do insults.
    - paul7986 3y ago
      Any computer can be hacked, so nonsense (?) and you are saying a AI robot car will never be hacked? It previously happened in Charlottesville sometime ago (https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2015/5/1/2015may-researchers-hack-into-driverless-car-system-take-control-of-vehicle https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2015/5/1/20...) and will surely happen again but possibly not just one car but a fleet as others in this thread agree/noted. There's two sides ..either you're all for them or on the fence or against. Im on the fence with trusting Waymo more then Cruise as Waymo's been at it for more then a decade but am concerned about all things I noted. I did not insult anyone it was tongue and cheek. As well i was just responding to the drinking and driving analogy which my argument and that are two different ones.
  - bastawhiz 3y ago
    Plenty of cars today are already drive by wire and connected. Cars have had computer controlled cruise for a decade or more. There's absolutely no reason to assume the security of the car's systems is impacted by its ability to drive itself.
ericksoa 3y ago
Charlottesville might have thoughts on this
- im3w1l 3y ago
  That was one car. The thing with hacking is that it's incredibly scalable. Imagine a million cars going haywire at the same time. It could be worse than being hit by a nuke, and it could be dropped by a single talented extremist.

Yeah it's a good thing that cities aren't filled with retail locations that sell liquids that, if ingested, turn humans into bad drivers that think they're great drivers. And it's a good thing that those hypothetical liquids don't form debilitating addictions that make the humans want them more.

paul7986 3y ago
hmmm your analogy doesn't totally fit and you might have drank too much of the AI tech bro kool aid ;-) These cars can be hacked as used as weapons ... for terrorist attacks. As well malfunction and lock you in driving into the bay or off a cliff or etc. Open to your rebuttal ;-)
- lucubratory 3y ago
  Rebuttal to what? You accused them of being a tech cultist and then started talking nonsense about terrorist attacks that are already performed with cars and trucks and would probably be harder to do in a self-driving world, as well as fear-mongering about "hacking" when all modern cars can be hacked by ATPs anyway, and they're the only ones who'd be capable of pulling off something like what you're talking about. Nonsense doesn't require a rebuttal and neither do insults.
  - paul7986 3y ago
    Any computer can be hacked, so nonsense (?) and you are saying a AI robot car will never be hacked? It previously happened in Charlottesville sometime ago (https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2015/5/1/2015may-researchers-hack-into-driverless-car-system-take-control-of-vehicle https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2015/5/1/20...) and will surely happen again but possibly not just one car but a fleet as others in this thread agree/noted. There's two sides ..either you're all for them or on the fence or against. Im on the fence with trusting Waymo more then Cruise as Waymo's been at it for more then a decade but am concerned about all things I noted. I did not insult anyone it was tongue and cheek. As well i was just responding to the drinking and driving analogy which my argument and that are two different ones.
- bastawhiz 3y ago
  Plenty of cars today are already drive by wire and connected. Cars have had computer controlled cruise for a decade or more. There's absolutely no reason to assume the security of the car's systems is impacted by its ability to drive itself.

ericksoa 3y ago

Charlottesville might have thoughts on this

im3w1l 3y ago
That was one car. The thing with hacking is that it's incredibly scalable. Imagine a million cars going haywire at the same time. It could be worse than being hit by a nuke, and it could be dropped by a single talented extremist.