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For those who keep screwing this up in the sibling comments: 5G is LTE. LTE is a protocol managed by the 3GPP Working Group. LTE is a forever protocol that con

For those who keep screwing this up in the sibling comments: 5G is LTE. LTE is a protocol managed by the 3GPP Working Group. LTE is a forever protocol that continues to add new technologies and enhancements to existing ones while maintaining that single technology. LTE has gone through many versions whose names are absolutely useless, such as "LTE Advanced" or "LTE Advanced Pro", which do not align with any major addition to the LTE spec; new versions of the LTE spec may not explicitly contain the name, such as "5G NR", which is a source of confusion for some. Also, 5G is not, automatically, mmWave, nor are 5G handsets required to implement it, and many don't.

m463 3y ago
5G is LTE, except... it is designed to allow IOT devices in your home to send data back to the manufacturer without your consent.
- DiabloD3 3y ago
  Nope, again, not a 5G feature. In 3GPP Release 13 (the release that did LTE Advanced Pro, the version that adds high QAM complexity along with high MIMO complexity to set the stage for the next version of LTE, now known as NR; LTE Advanced Pro is often referred to as 4.5 or 4.9G) introduces two new variants of the LTE family, NB-IoT and LTE-M NB-IoT defines what is essentially an "LTE Lite" protocol for low computation devices, similar to, say, the relation of BT and BLE, where BLE uses the BT PHY in a low power/complexity state with a simplified protocol. This protocol is meant for dozens of kbps in half duplex operation. LTE-M focuses on low bandwidth, but higher than NB-IoT, up to 10mbps down, 5mbps up. It, otherwise, uses existing LTE mostly as is, just reducing the LTE PHY to the lowest complexity allowable by the spec in an effort to reduce power usage. This is similar to how you can buy 802.11ac WiFi SoCs that are limited to 2.4ghz 1x1 20mhz (often seen in standalone WiFi Direct stuff). NB-IoT is useful not for "spying on you", but for deploying commercial agricultural and industrial sensors using existing LTE networks instead of deploying expensive purpose built networks (such as DASH7, HART). LTE-M would be "useful", but unlikely to be deployed inside of consumer devices for the purposes of spying due to the cost. Neither are an appropriate replacement for Zigbee or Z-Wave or Thread or any of those home automation protocols; and devices that use those can, and probably do, spy on you already.

m463 3y ago

5G is LTE, except... it is designed to allow IOT devices in your home to send data back to the manufacturer without your consent.

DiabloD3 3y ago
Nope, again, not a 5G feature. In 3GPP Release 13 (the release that did LTE Advanced Pro, the version that adds high QAM complexity along with high MIMO complexity to set the stage for the next version of LTE, now known as NR; LTE Advanced Pro is often referred to as 4.5 or 4.9G) introduces two new variants of the LTE family, NB-IoT and LTE-M NB-IoT defines what is essentially an "LTE Lite" protocol for low computation devices, similar to, say, the relation of BT and BLE, where BLE uses the BT PHY in a low power/complexity state with a simplified protocol. This protocol is meant for dozens of kbps in half duplex operation. LTE-M focuses on low bandwidth, but higher than NB-IoT, up to 10mbps down, 5mbps up. It, otherwise, uses existing LTE mostly as is, just reducing the LTE PHY to the lowest complexity allowable by the spec in an effort to reduce power usage. This is similar to how you can buy 802.11ac WiFi SoCs that are limited to 2.4ghz 1x1 20mhz (often seen in standalone WiFi Direct stuff). NB-IoT is useful not for "spying on you", but for deploying commercial agricultural and industrial sensors using existing LTE networks instead of deploying expensive purpose built networks (such as DASH7, HART). LTE-M would be "useful", but unlikely to be deployed inside of consumer devices for the purposes of spying due to the cost. Neither are an appropriate replacement for Zigbee or Z-Wave or Thread or any of those home automation protocols; and devices that use those can, and probably do, spy on you already.