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To complete the context, both of those are required for free use of Docker Desktop; 250 employees and $1k revenue would still require you to license it. EDIT:

To complete the context, both of those are required for free use of Docker Desktop; 250 employees and $1k revenue would still require you to license it. EDIT: https://docs.docker.com/subscription/desktop-license/ https://docs.docker.com/subscription/desktop-license/

throwawayit1234 3y ago
That sounds like a bad business.
- Apfel 3y ago
  Or a government organisation. Or a charity.
  - willsmith72 3y ago
    Having worked in government, I don't see why they should be excluded from paying. But I think a charity could fall under the 3rd one here. "Examples of freely permitted usage include: Personal projects with less than $10 million revenue per year Students and teachers (whether in an educational or professional setting) Research at not-for-profit institutions Personal contributions to non-commercial open source projects"
    - Spooky23 3y ago
      Second that. The crazy t&c required by gov have to be accounted for.
  - Zetice 3y ago
    Not-for-profit institutions are exempt.
Barrin92 3y ago
>250 employees and $1k revenue what is this, the world's most overstaffed lemonade stand?
- sbjs 3y ago
  Rarely does an HN comment make me laugh. Well done.
colechristensen 3y ago
Which is fine. 250 employees earning the median US wage is 11 million per year to the employee before all sorts of overhead so more like 20 million in wages per year.
- dwattttt 3y ago
  While true, many businesses are not US or staffed by the median waged US employee
- ElectricalUnion 3y ago
  250 employees earning the average AR wage (542400 ARS/year) is around 360000 USD per year. You can pay 10 average AR workers for the wage of a single US minimum wage worker.
  - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
    Respectfully, I had no idea what you were talking about without a few google searches. AR == Argentinian Peso 542k ARS == $1600 USD So I guess I’ll ask some questions: 1) Is the Argentinian software labor pool large and organized enough to be accessible to international firms? 2) Is this the average wage of a software developer in Argentina? Or some larger group? 3) Why is this relevant in this discussion?
    - colechristensen 3y ago
      I worked with some great Argentine contractors some years ago, I understand there is a nontrivial offshoring software labor pool. There is a point that offshore contractors getting access to such software represents a ... larger proportion of compensation, especially among the several such SaaS per-user fees most tech companies will pay. But there's also a counterpoint... docker wants somewhere between $5 and $30 US dollars per month per user, yes this is annoying because the value doesn't seem to be there for docker desktop which is all most people want anyway... on the other hand it's not such a moral issue... it's not much money at all.
    - ElectricalUnion 3y ago

throwawayit1234 3y ago

That sounds like a bad business.

Apfel 3y ago
Or a government organisation. Or a charity.
- willsmith72 3y ago
  Having worked in government, I don't see why they should be excluded from paying. But I think a charity could fall under the 3rd one here. "Examples of freely permitted usage include: Personal projects with less than $10 million revenue per year Students and teachers (whether in an educational or professional setting) Research at not-for-profit institutions Personal contributions to non-commercial open source projects"
  - Spooky23 3y ago
    Second that. The crazy t&c required by gov have to be accounted for.
- Zetice 3y ago
  Not-for-profit institutions are exempt.

Barrin92 3y ago

>250 employees and $1k revenue what is this, the world's most overstaffed lemonade stand?

sbjs 3y ago
Rarely does an HN comment make me laugh. Well done.

colechristensen 3y ago

Which is fine. 250 employees earning the median US wage is 11 million per year to the employee before all sorts of overhead so more like 20 million in wages per year.

dwattttt 3y ago
While true, many businesses are not US or staffed by the median waged US employee
ElectricalUnion 3y ago
250 employees earning the average AR wage (542400 ARS/year) is around 360000 USD per year. You can pay 10 average AR workers for the wage of a single US minimum wage worker.
- DiggyJohnson 3y ago
  Respectfully, I had no idea what you were talking about without a few google searches. AR == Argentinian Peso 542k ARS == $1600 USD So I guess I’ll ask some questions: 1) Is the Argentinian software labor pool large and organized enough to be accessible to international firms? 2) Is this the average wage of a software developer in Argentina? Or some larger group? 3) Why is this relevant in this discussion?
  - colechristensen 3y ago
    I worked with some great Argentine contractors some years ago, I understand there is a nontrivial offshoring software labor pool. There is a point that offshore contractors getting access to such software represents a ... larger proportion of compensation, especially among the several such SaaS per-user fees most tech companies will pay. But there's also a counterpoint... docker wants somewhere between $5 and $30 US dollars per month per user, yes this is annoying because the value doesn't seem to be there for docker desktop which is all most people want anyway... on the other hand it's not such a moral issue... it's not much money at all.
  - ElectricalUnion 3y ago