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I'm unsure of how it exactly differs and whether there are features missing. I will admit that if I were to install uBOL today, I would be worried that it would

by e2le 3y ago

I'm unsure of how it exactly differs and whether there are features missing. I will admit that if I were to install uBOL today, I would be worried that it would be less capable and my browsing experience less-safe.

eipi10_hn 3y ago
There are many features missing, more prone to anti-adblock/ads-reinsertion (problems with `redirect-rule` and unable to fast updates) and ads/trackers/popups can slip through if cannot be caught by regex filters.
odo1242 3y ago
also: - one thing that is much less powerful is cosmetic filters, which means ads may be replaced with gray squares if uBOL can't remove them entirely - less filters overall, because the limits on how many filters are possible are pretty strict - extension updates will be both larger and much more frequent because filter lists can no longer be updated separately from the extension
- flangola7 3y ago
  Why is there a filter limit at all? Why did Firefox add that? Can config change it?
  - postalrat 3y ago
    Filters aren't free
    - wtallis 3y ago
      They are quite often better than free, blocking unwanted content that would consume more memory and CPU time than the filter itself.
    - JacobSeated 3y ago
      Filters take a minuscule amount of resources. E.g. Even if you had to loop over a list with thousands of entries this would be unlikely to matter, and can in fact even be optimized quite significantly with various algorithms. However, because a database is most likely used, this is not even an issue, and the resource use will in fact be truly minimal. I can not give you an exact number, but it is massively bigger than the number of trackers / elements that any usable web page can realistically implement. Probably you can do several thousands database calls in less than a second due to indexing; and that can be further optimized by doing it in batches, bringing it up to tens of thousands, if not in the hundreds on modern PCs. It is literally not an issue.
      - postalrat 3y ago
        Is the limit still around 30,000 or is it higher? That could be 600,000 filter checks on a page load with 20 requests. I'm sure it's fast but if people want unlimited number of rules that number could start exploding.
  - bornfreddy 3y ago
    > Why did Firefox add that? They didn't, Google did. It is part of MV3 specs, afaik.
    - _aizw 3y ago
      But Firefox still didn't have to implement the limit.
      - _v7gu 3y ago
        Then don't use the downgraded version of the ad blocker? What is the point of having two versions of MV3 when you can use a superior adblocker on Firefox anyway?
    - flangola7 3y ago
      Google doesn't make Firefox. I flatly don't understand why Mozilla has that limit.
winter_blue 3y ago
Hmm, it looks like the uBO "Enter element picker mode" feature is not available. I've found that pretty useful occasionally in the past on websites where uBO doesn't catch an ad.
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by e2le 3y ago

eipi10_hn 3y ago

There are many features missing, more prone to anti-adblock/ads-reinsertion (problems with `redirect-rule` and unable to fast updates) and ads/trackers/popups can slip through if cannot be caught by regex filters.

odo1242 3y ago

also: - one thing that is much less powerful is cosmetic filters, which means ads may be replaced with gray squares if uBOL can't remove them entirely - less filters overall, because the limits on how many filters are possible are pretty strict - extension updates will be both larger and much more frequent because filter lists can no longer be updated separately from the extension

flangola7 3y ago
Why is there a filter limit at all? Why did Firefox add that? Can config change it?
- postalrat 3y ago
  Filters aren't free
  - wtallis 3y ago
    They are quite often better than free, blocking unwanted content that would consume more memory and CPU time than the filter itself.
  - JacobSeated 3y ago
    Filters take a minuscule amount of resources. E.g. Even if you had to loop over a list with thousands of entries this would be unlikely to matter, and can in fact even be optimized quite significantly with various algorithms. However, because a database is most likely used, this is not even an issue, and the resource use will in fact be truly minimal. I can not give you an exact number, but it is massively bigger than the number of trackers / elements that any usable web page can realistically implement. Probably you can do several thousands database calls in less than a second due to indexing; and that can be further optimized by doing it in batches, bringing it up to tens of thousands, if not in the hundreds on modern PCs. It is literally not an issue.
    - postalrat 3y ago
      Is the limit still around 30,000 or is it higher? That could be 600,000 filter checks on a page load with 20 requests. I'm sure it's fast but if people want unlimited number of rules that number could start exploding.
- bornfreddy 3y ago
  > Why did Firefox add that? They didn't, Google did. It is part of MV3 specs, afaik.
  - _aizw 3y ago
    But Firefox still didn't have to implement the limit.
    - _v7gu 3y ago
      Then don't use the downgraded version of the ad blocker? What is the point of having two versions of MV3 when you can use a superior adblocker on Firefox anyway?
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Google doesn't make Firefox. I flatly don't understand why Mozilla has that limit.

winter_blue 3y ago

Hmm, it looks like the uBO "Enter element picker mode" feature is not available. I've found that pretty useful occasionally in the past on websites where uBO doesn't catch an ad.

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