3 ms·

If the photo IDs are made available free of charge in convenient locations such as post offices, how would they be disenfranchised?

CyberDildonics 3y ago
Again, show me the problem this is supposed to solve. Also they aren't free in the US and they aren't always easy. Sometime you have to make appointments at DMVs and you have to get there as well. There are different fees and different durations per state. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/drivers-license-cost-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/drivers-lic... If you think about someone living in a city where they can take the bus and they don't own a car, they might not have a license. Then they might not get one just to vote in an election every four years that will just go the same way the state always votes (of course they end up not voting for everything else on the ballot). Then maybe you shut down some polling places, split some up, move some around. Maybe you expire people's registrations early. This is how you bend statistics to your side. It isn't about one person technically being able to navigate every obstacle. Every time the bus goes around a corner some people fall off and that's the point. You are falling into the exact type of thinking that the people who create these situations want.
- lockhouse 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    The problem is that people can vote multiple times in the same election currently if an ID isn't checked. If you are required to prove your identity before you vote, you can ensure that every voter only gets one vote. Prove it. You keep saying that this is a problem but you haven't given any evidence.
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      Okay, here’s some evidence… https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/yes-voter-fraud-is-real-and-courts-are-cracking-down-on-it https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairnes... https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/10/11/michigan-officials-charge-3-people-with-voter-fraud-tell-trump-supporters-to-stop-telling-lies-fraud-is-widespread/?sh=1e27d1c8ba4e https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/10/11/michiga... https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mail-fraud-ken-paxton-in-ballot-gregg-county-commission-arrested/6544331/ https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mail-fraud-ken-paxton-in-bal... Now your turn, what is the harm in making people prove their identity to vote if IDs are provided free of cost?

CyberDildonics 3y ago

Again, show me the problem this is supposed to solve. Also they aren't free in the US and they aren't always easy. Sometime you have to make appointments at DMVs and you have to get there as well. There are different fees and different durations per state. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/drivers-license-cost-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/drivers-lic... If you think about someone living in a city where they can take the bus and they don't own a car, they might not have a license. Then they might not get one just to vote in an election every four years that will just go the same way the state always votes (of course they end up not voting for everything else on the ballot). Then maybe you shut down some polling places, split some up, move some around. Maybe you expire people's registrations early. This is how you bend statistics to your side. It isn't about one person technically being able to navigate every obstacle. Every time the bus goes around a corner some people fall off and that's the point. You are falling into the exact type of thinking that the people who create these situations want.

lockhouse 3y ago
[flagged]
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  The problem is that people can vote multiple times in the same election currently if an ID isn't checked. If you are required to prove your identity before you vote, you can ensure that every voter only gets one vote. Prove it. You keep saying that this is a problem but you haven't given any evidence.
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    Okay, here’s some evidence… https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/yes-voter-fraud-is-real-and-courts-are-cracking-down-on-it https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairnes... https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/10/11/michigan-officials-charge-3-people-with-voter-fraud-tell-trump-supporters-to-stop-telling-lies-fraud-is-widespread/?sh=1e27d1c8ba4e https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/10/11/michiga... https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mail-fraud-ken-paxton-in-ballot-gregg-county-commission-arrested/6544331/ https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mail-fraud-ken-paxton-in-bal... Now your turn, what is the harm in making people prove their identity to vote if IDs are provided free of cost?