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I had never heard of a"graphological report" so I looked it up. It's so much worse than I would have guessed! Any of those personality tests are such a major re

I had never heard of a"graphological report" so I looked it up. It's so much worse than I would have guessed! Any of those personality tests are such a major red flag. "Graphology is the analysis of handwriting with attempt to determine someone's personality traits."

mihaaly 3y ago
To me the aptitude tests are red flags. Once had a successfull technical round plus agreement on work conditions and compensation when the last step was completing an aptitude test. Two parts (had a chance for a single practice round). One was finance related calculations (this was a developer job for a CAD application) mixed with logic and pattern completion tests, with less than adequate time to complete - yet both progress and accuracy was judged without specifics how. The second part was 'which one do you find more important' kind of personality test with all important answers of independent matters (all three are important in their own place), all without a context that would require different choices, expecting universal answers, and again, not enough time but rushing through without deliberation or contemplation of the right answer. I was asking how will they use the results and they said something like 'to determine abilities, suitability for advancements and future roles in the company'. All after position related technical interviews succeeded. I chose not to be judged this way now and in the future, in case they take it dead seriously. If not, then opt out because of that, being unnecessary. Since they told it is mandatory and everyone (10k+ employee) have to be judged the very same way and repeatedly throughout the course of employment with bleeding heart (interesting task, same wavelength with technical manager, remote work in 2019, good enogh salary, being without income for 3 months already) I said no (after rounds of emails with HR trying to negotiate this away). I am afraid of an organization with this level of robotic stubbornness about vaguely relevant attempt of measuring a persons whole personality and future at the company in 30 minute automated tests with unveryfiable methodology.
gweinberg 3y ago
They may has well have done a tarot reading. OTSH, it could just be a mostly harmless eccentricity of the CEO.

mihaaly 3y ago

To me the aptitude tests are red flags. Once had a successfull technical round plus agreement on work conditions and compensation when the last step was completing an aptitude test. Two parts (had a chance for a single practice round). One was finance related calculations (this was a developer job for a CAD application) mixed with logic and pattern completion tests, with less than adequate time to complete - yet both progress and accuracy was judged without specifics how. The second part was 'which one do you find more important' kind of personality test with all important answers of independent matters (all three are important in their own place), all without a context that would require different choices, expecting universal answers, and again, not enough time but rushing through without deliberation or contemplation of the right answer. I was asking how will they use the results and they said something like 'to determine abilities, suitability for advancements and future roles in the company'. All after position related technical interviews succeeded. I chose not to be judged this way now and in the future, in case they take it dead seriously. If not, then opt out because of that, being unnecessary. Since they told it is mandatory and everyone (10k+ employee) have to be judged the very same way and repeatedly throughout the course of employment with bleeding heart (interesting task, same wavelength with technical manager, remote work in 2019, good enogh salary, being without income for 3 months already) I said no (after rounds of emails with HR trying to negotiate this away). I am afraid of an organization with this level of robotic stubbornness about vaguely relevant attempt of measuring a persons whole personality and future at the company in 30 minute automated tests with unveryfiable methodology.

gweinberg 3y ago

They may has well have done a tarot reading. OTSH, it could just be a mostly harmless eccentricity of the CEO.