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> So let me get this straight: the newspaper was investigating a liquor license request and using public records found the applicant had DUI arrests. They used

> So let me get this straight: the newspaper was investigating a liquor license request and using public records found the applicant had DUI arrests. They used the public records system to verify information they'd already received from an informant.

dylan604 3y ago
While the information might be public, I read something about the system used to look up the information wasn't exactly a public system where the one doing the looking up did not normally have access. Essentially, it was a reporter taking a shortcut. This is why they ultimately decided to not publish the story because the confirmation was on shaky ground
- mywittyname 3y ago
  What's the not-exactly-public-system here? I assume its a one of the commercially available services that collect this information from the governments and sell it back to governments and non-governments, alike.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    I don't recall. It was just an article I read on the subject this weekend, and I don't even remember who published it to even attempt to look it up. However, I don't know why the specific service actually matters. There's a word for a person not granted access to a system accessing the system without permission. It's in the name of this website
    - justin66 3y ago
      You've defined down "hacker" pretty badly if debatably not using a publicly accessible website for its intended purpose according to the posted terms of service now qualifies.
      - dylan604 3y ago
        It’s how the people that bring charges would define it. What you or I understand the meaning is irrelevant in the eyes of Johnny Law
        justin66 3y ago
        Does the Kansas criminal code use the word "hacker" or are you just making stuff up?
  - anon84873628 3y ago
    See page 6 of the police affidavit: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23919909-marion-county-record-affidavit https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23919909-marion-coun... It's a Department of Revenue website where the user must select their reason for accessing the information and agree to terms of use per a Kansas law.

dylan604 3y ago

While the information might be public, I read something about the system used to look up the information wasn't exactly a public system where the one doing the looking up did not normally have access. Essentially, it was a reporter taking a shortcut. This is why they ultimately decided to not publish the story because the confirmation was on shaky ground

mywittyname 3y ago
What's the not-exactly-public-system here? I assume its a one of the commercially available services that collect this information from the governments and sell it back to governments and non-governments, alike.
- dylan604 3y ago
  I don't recall. It was just an article I read on the subject this weekend, and I don't even remember who published it to even attempt to look it up. However, I don't know why the specific service actually matters. There's a word for a person not granted access to a system accessing the system without permission. It's in the name of this website
  - justin66 3y ago
    You've defined down "hacker" pretty badly if debatably not using a publicly accessible website for its intended purpose according to the posted terms of service now qualifies.
    - dylan604 3y ago
      It’s how the people that bring charges would define it. What you or I understand the meaning is irrelevant in the eyes of Johnny Law
      - justin66 3y ago
        Does the Kansas criminal code use the word "hacker" or are you just making stuff up?
- anon84873628 3y ago
  See page 6 of the police affidavit: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23919909-marion-county-record-affidavit https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23919909-marion-coun... It's a Department of Revenue website where the user must select their reason for accessing the information and agree to terms of use per a Kansas law.